Rafa explains why he is open to the idea of selling Alonso

[El Jefecito]

The birth of the child was very public and it was in all the broadsheets, Rafa even said after the game that "Xabi chose to stay with his wife" and that he didn't want to discuss. Do you have the memory of a fish?

No-one is claiming that he did not stay behind, you are claiming that Rafa now has a vendetta as a result of that. That is what I am questioning.

And lay off the insults mate or it WILL get ugly.

[Rashid]

No-one is claiming that he did not stay behind, you are claiming that Rafa now has a vendetta as a result of that. That is what I am questioning.

And lay off the insults mate or it WILL get ugly.

Yeah OK. How insulting that was eh?

Of course Rafa has a vendetta, and it will come out when the lad leaves.

[Woobus]

Would he have missed the birth of his own two children for football?

I have heard of plenty of fans who have missed it for a match, once again something I wouldnt agree with but it has only been recent that men went into the maternity ward.
Was it not Rafa who didnt take any time of after his father died while in Japan, thats what I meant by him expecting the same level of commitment as he gives himself. He is Liverpool through and through if you ask me and knows what it means to the fans to win.

[Resu]

From .no who got it from Echo:
Echo hevder at Gillett er rasende på Benitez etter managerens antydninger om manglende støtte fra deleieren i Barry-sagaen. LFC må betale hele 6 mill euro til Sociedad om Alonso går på billigsalg.

Av Einar Kvande


Verken Tom Hicks eller George Gillett har uttalt seg offentlig om transfersagaen rundt Gareth Barry, men ifølge Tony Barrett i Liverpool Echo skal Gillett være rasende på Rafael Benitez fordi manageren offentlig har antydet at han er misfornøyd med at Barry ikke har blitt Liverpool-spiller.

Gillett og sønnen Foster skal ha vært tungt involvert i Barry-sagaen, og duoen skal være av den oppfatning at Benitez har gått over streken i sin omtale av det som har skjedd i kulissene.

Barrett mener at Hicks' posisjon i dette spillet er mer uklar, etter at Benitez i helgen uttalte til media at texaneren hadde fortalt ham at pengene til å kjøpe Barry var tilgjengelige.

Echo mener at eierne bevisst lot Rick Parry ta støyten, ved å være mannen som ble sitert i pressemeldingen der det ble slått fast at Barry ble for dyr for Liverpool FC.

Barrett slår fast at dersom Rafa Benitez hadde fått det som han ønsket så ville Gareth Barry ha vært Liverpool-spiller nå, mens Xabi Alonso ikke ville ha vært det. Echo-journalisten konstaterer også at forholdet mellom Alonso og manager Benitez har kjølnet kraftig i løpet av denne prosessen. De to spanjolene skal ha hatt en krangel i forkant av kampen mot Standard Liege i Belgia.

Alonso skal nå være helt klar på at han ønsker å forlate Liverpool, etter at det ble klart at Benitez ikke verdsetter hans tjenester like høyt som tidligere. Problemet for både Benitez og Alonso er imidlertid at Anfield-klubben ikke har mottatt noe bud på spilleren. Både Juventus og Arsenal registrerte sin interesse for Alonso, men ingen av klubbene var villige til å betale noe i nærheten av det Liverpool forventet å få for spilleren.

Barrett avslører også at Liverpool garanterte Alonsos tidligere klubb, Real Sociedad, 6 millioner euro dersom Alonso ble solgt for 16 millioner eller mindre, og dette kompliserer situasjonen ytterligere. Dersom Liverpool får mer enn 16 millioner euro for Alonso, sier avtalen at de røde bare behøver å betale 20% av overgangssummen til Sociedad. Dette gjør det nærmest umulig for Liverpool å selge Alonso for 16 millioner euro eller mindre uten å tape ansikt.

Echo-journalist Barrett hevder også at det aldri har vært en reell problemstilling for Rafael Benitez å si opp jobben som en følge av det som har skjedd i Barry-sagaen. Manageren er helt åpenbart frustrert over at han ikke har fått kloa i Barry, og Barrett tror at Benitez bevisst har brukt den spanske journalisten Guillem Balague til å synliggjøre denne frustrasjonen.

Gillette is pissed at Rafa again, this time over the Barry saga. The owners used Parry as the scapegoat (this seems pretty much tobe Parrys job these days)
But there are some interesting points about Xabi.
He had an argument with Rafa before the Liege game, and now wants to be sold. the problem is that no clubs are interested. There is also a clause in the deal with Sociedad that says that they are entitled to 6M Euros if Xabi is sold for less than 16M Euros. If he`s sold for more than 16M Euros LFC only have to pay 20%. This means that LFC will lose a lot of money if they sell for less than 16M Euros. This deals sounds very strange to me, but ....

[Rashid]

Gillett wants to sack Rafa according to a journo mate of mine (and Hicks does too but he is more scared of the fans).

[Woobus]

Gillett wants to sack Rafa according to a journo mate of mine (and Hicks does too but he is more scared of the fans).

I would doubt that, Rafa seems to be the only man who brings Hicks any credit at all and is completely against Gillett. Unless the stories of Hicks Gillett fighting is a lie then I really cant see this being true, specially since Rafa came out recently on Hicks side.

[Reece]

Do you mean since the Barry thing? As if they wanted to prior then they wouldn't have given him £20m to spend on Keane.

[Scratch]

****s sake people, Rashid has zero contacts and zero credibility, all his "info" is garnered from other sites and rehashed into his own opinions, which are unsurprisingly anti-Rafa. And yet you continue to try and debate with him, only to be countered with "a journo friend of mine" "this comes from a player"...tis all bollocks.

[Rashid]

They have always wanted him sacked but realised after the Bascombe article last winter that Rafa has the fans onside. Hicks then used Rafa to get more popularity and Rafa is now using him for money. If the fans were not so behind Rafa then he would be gone. This latest stuff has bought Hicks and Gillett together even more.

[El Jefecito]

Yeah OK. How insulting that was eh?

Of course Rafa has a vendetta, and it will come out when the lad leaves.

Even so, it's not necessary.

[Dhav]

Well wasn't there a story, not more than a month ago probably, of a either a cricketer or a rugby player missing the birth of his child to play a game because he didn't want to let his team-mates down? I don't think this is as black and white as all of you paint it.

[Rashid]

Well wasn't there a story, not more than a month ago probably, of a either a cricketer or a rugby player missing the birth of his child to play a game because he didn't want to let his team-mates down? I don't think this is as black and white as all of you paint it.

It is individual choice and no manager should be able to decide or make a vendetta because of it - for one it's illegal!

[Dhav]

It is individual choice and no manager should be able to decide or make a vendetta because of it - for one it's illegal!

Vendetta is a strong word, but I do agree with you in that I think Rafa was pissed off at that incident, and that there appears to be something personal between them. This could be the cause of it, or just one of the causes, but I do think it has played a part in their relationship breaking down. IMO

[Reece]

So where exactly have you heard about this vendetta Rafa has against Xabi then?

"This isn't a rumour, it's from one of the players and it will come out when Xabi leaves"

Because no doubt you've heard this second hand on an internet forum.

[Woobus]

It is individual choice and no manager should be able to decide or make a vendetta because of it - for one it's illegal!

It is one of many incidents, I have heard from a player that the other incidents were true and when Rafa leaves they will all come out