Is it bad luck or is it lack of talent?

[Craig_H]

Keane hit two straight at the keeper from inside the box. Torres Headed one wide which he should have at the very least got on target.

As i've said, the Torres one was a clear chance. The Keane ones, half chances for me. Even if you count them, that's 3 chances in 90 mins against Stoke. Hardly upto scratch.

[Reece]

As i've said, the Torres one was a clear chance. The Keane ones, half chances for me. Even if you count them, that's 3 chances in 90 mins against Stoke. Hardly upto scratch.

See my edit.

[Finnish_Red]

There werent clear cut chances, with us having 'carved them open' though.

The Torres header was the best chance and on another day would've gone in, but the Keane ones were snap-shot half chances.

For example, the passing that opened the opportunity for Keane was "carving them open" IMO. All that was missing was the killing touch.

[Craig_H]

Keane hit two straight at the keeper from inside the box. Torres Headed one wide which he should have at the very least got on target.

Not sure how many "CLEAR" chances you can expect when a team is basically defending with all their players in the box.

If you move the ball quicker, with a good tempo and produce decent movement in the final third, you'll create chances. We dont.

Let's see how many chelsea, man utd and arsenal create shall we?

[Reece]

Let's see how many chelsea, man utd and arsenal create shall we?

Oooooh yes lets!

[Craig_H]

Well, it's a valid point and your reply indicates that you dont really have an argument against it.

But no, let's settle for 4th again.

[reds123]

Just a reminder of the good old times when we used to open up defences as good as the brazilians.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmyzLuxRBUE&feature=related

[Craig_H]

Even 20% of that would be nice mate. Quick passing, good movement, attacking mentality, creativity oozing out of every pore.

Them were the days.

[Guest]

Even 20% of that would be nice mate. Quick passing, good movement, attacking mentality, creativity oozing out of every pore.

Them were the days.

You watch the game with your backside or what ?

[Craig_H]

You watch the game with your backside or what ?

If you're allowed to talk out of yours, i'm free to use mine in whichever way i like.

Other than that, i have no clue what you're on about, so that's one thing we have in common.

[Guest]

If you're allowed to talk out of yours, i'm free to use mine in whichever way i like.

Other than that, i have no clue what you're on about, so that's one thing we have in common.

I didn't mean talking.

[MrsB]

It's the coaching, obviously having more on more world class players in the team will up us to pull games out of the hat more often but at the end of the day the managers needs to coach the players into playing well against packed defences.

We need to start dominating in games where the onus is on us to win, not just beating teams against the odds in two legs.

I will say it till I am blue in the face but Rafa's style of play is to blame no matter what players we have in the team.

I wonder why you keep repeating it. Every Est member already knows your opinion perfectly well. And the more you try to convince us, the more stubborn we get.

[dom9]

It's the coaching, obviously having more on more world class players in the team will up us to pull games out of the hat more often but at the end of the day the managers needs to coach the players into playing well against packed defences.

We need to start dominating in games where the onus is on us to win, not just beating teams against the odds in two legs.

I will say it till I am blue in the face but Rafa's style of play is to blame no matter what players we have in the team.

That was complete and utter domination yesterday - just no goals.

Compare it to the Boro game when we were totally hopeless, but snatched a win from the jaws of defeat.

The two games have evened themselves out.

Anyway, I find your constant whingeing very tiresome. There are 20 teams in our league. There is no God given right to win it. So please get a life.

[blacky]

We never opened them up when you consider that we had the ball 76% of the time - we huffed and puffed and made scrappy openings. There no method to our attacking...

In Your Opinion Rash. You can repeat the same statement over and over on here but it won't make it any truer.Yesterdays result had nothing to do withtactics, we controlled the game for 90 mins and created countless chances. We were not clinical enough in front of goal. I have watched Arsenal,Chelsea and the Mancs struggle countless times against teams that turn up and put 11 men behind the ball.The whole "parking the bus in front of the goal" is a Mourinho analogy of a game the Chavs drew with Spurs. Just because Rafadoesnot play the Arsenal brand of football you crave does not mean there is no method to our attacking.

[Johnny]

It's the coaching, obviously having more on more world class players in the team will up us to pull games out of the hat more often but at the end of the day the managers needs to coach the players into playing well against packed defences.

We need to start dominating in games where the onus is on us to win, not just beating teams against the odds in two legs.

I will say it till I am blue in the face but Rafa's style of play is to blame no matter what players we have in the team.

Do it somewhere else would you.Your incredibly boring.