Uefa Stars Of The Future.

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i see ur point, - mellors goalscoring as youth and ressie was unreal, but even when he was banging in them goals he always looked a bit big, and not mobile - i don't think anyone could have doubted him as purely a finisher in the box but he lacked something extra - hopefully dalle valle has it

again mellor is another who had injury problems - i may be wrong but i think he suffered with tendinitis in both knees

exactly nobody thought mellor would make it from what i remember, once a pie shop, always a pie shop.

[Matt]

People are building up Dalla Valle like we all did with Pacheco last year, and he's gone off the radar somewhat.

[Chrono]

People are building up Dalla Valle like we all did with Pacheco last year, and he's gone off the radar somewhat.

Nah, he is still in the youth setup. He hasn't gone of the boil and will most likely be moved up to the reserves next season.

[andyhanrahan]

if la tallec hadnt had such a high opinion of himself he would still be a liverpool player

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if la tallec hadnt had such a high opinion of himself he would still be a liverpool player

think he would have been bombed out by now.....hardly ripping up the french league

[einar]

There is another thing to consider here. There was a big study done in the states. They compared players who started at the age of 17 or 18 to those who started at 20 or 21. And the difference was vast. That could be part of the reason why they are not rushing players like Pacheco into the team.

[Exiled_red]

There is another thing to consider here. There was a big study done in the states. They compared players who started at the age of 17 or 18 to those who started at 20 or 21. And the difference was vast. That could be part of the reason why they are not rushing players like Pacheco into the team.

In what way was the difference vast?

[Bari]

In what way was the difference vast?

Best and Cantona

[BrianF80]

I agree with the glove

I use nemeth purely has an example - but he has been here as ressie/youth player for something like 2 maybe more years, and during that time has been mentioned as a top youngster, one for the future, and when he is ready he will be class - yet rafa went out and paid £1.5m or whatever it was for a striker who is 3 months younger than nemeth and went on to feature about 15 times or so in his first season!!!

If nemeth was anywhere close to ngog then surely we would have seen him once!!! So for me thats a major concern, when a talked about young star reaches 20 and he has not got close to game, he ain't going to make it here imo - bold statement maybe but i just can't see it.

To be fair i'd forget about el zhar - but I will make an even bolder statement here - other than insua who looks like he has the best chance of featuring - I can't see Spearing, Darby, El Zhar, Plessis, Nemeth, Pacheco, and i could prob add a few other names to the list, making 100 appearences between them! maybe even 50!!

Nemeth and N'Gog are two entirely different types of strikers though so comparing them is not really valid IMO. N'gog leads the line, Nemeth plays the withdrawn role. N'Gog is providing back-up for the Torres role. Nemeth is competing with Gerrard, Kuyt and Yossi. There was also talk that he was sent out on loan when we sold Keane to get him match sharp so he could move into the first team squad. Alas he broke his cheek bone and so that opportunity was missed.

After watching Nemeth last year I was certain he would make the first team even if only for the kind of minutes that El Zhar gets. This year though he's been awful. He really misses having someone to play off of. His link-up play hasn't really improved either. He's an outstanding finisher though, maybe if he gets some playing time away from the funk that hit the reserves team this year he can get back on track. I wouldn't write him off yet, but I know where you are coming from.

[BrianF80]

People are building up Dalla Valle like we all did with Pacheco last year, and he's gone off the radar somewhat.

No way. Dalla Valle has 19 goals in something like 23 U18 games.

[BrianF80]

I was Joe King anyways.

I like keeping any eye out for the youth, I dont think anyone with have now will make it apart from this German kid, Nemeth has the potential but injuries has brought his development to a stand still.

Dalla Valle is the next Neil Mellor.

Keep an eye on Andre Wisdom who plays with Buchtman at the academy. He's better than Buchtman. He's 15 (maybe 16 now) and has played for the U18s all season. He's played RB, CH and CM and never put a foot wrong. His decision making and tactical awareness for a kid are astonishing.

[sitoca]

When Rafa talk about Manchester having more money recently, he forgot to mention that a certain Macheda scored in 2 of Manures win this season.

If only we have youngsters that can step up to the first team as easily. In my opinion, Rafa just doesn't trust enough of the kids. He's always preferred young players with experience as N'gog and Lucas.

[Reece]

When Rafa talk about Manchester having more money recently, he forgot to mention that a certain Macheda scored in 2 of Manures win this season.

Insua has played a lot more than Macheda this season, he just hasn't hit the headlines because he isn't a striker and thus is unlikely to score. He has been very good though and that's a credit to Rafa for giving him the chance.

Can I ask which other kids you'd have given a chance to this season?

[Roboklopp]

Apart from 1 or 2 lapses, Insua rarely looks out of place in the 1st team.

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Insua has played a lot more than Macheda this season, he just hasn't hit the headlines because he isn't a striker and thus is unlikely to score. He has been very good though and that's a credit to Rafa for giving him the chance.

Can I ask which other kids you'd have given a chance to this season?

and he played when he was 18 for us to