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    Originally posted by Frenchie View Post
    I understand your point of view but a line in the sand against the owners needs to be drawn..

    Blindly accepting their decisions and pouring money into the club is just business as usual and they are sitting there in the USA laughing at you.

    It's not just Liverpool but all the leveraged buyout scum that count on unswaying loyalty to fund their deals.
    Totally agree, and your right ofcourse, but too many will have ready made excuses as to why there is nothing THEY can do, and we may as well just support, which is exactly what TOM HICKS said we'd do, atleast he got something right.
    Last edited by Vermilion; 30-06-10, 04:31 PM.

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      Originally posted by Mattshark View Post
      You are contradicting yourself there, counter attacking and dilly dallying with the ball between the back 4 and the DM's can't be doing both.

      Rafa had the playing playing in the Liverpool way. 2 DM's at home should not be an issue as that should allow both full backs to go forward as well and prevent what happened to the England defence happening to us. The problem was a lack of cover when Torres was out injured and a lack of options on the bench.
      Not last season. We were playing hoofball even with Torres on the pitch, he was chasing lost causes and jumping for headers against 2 CBs. Wasn't even counter attacking. We had a huge gap in the middle of the pitch and tried for force it to the strikers. Not the Liverpool way at all.
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          Originally posted by Vermilion View Post
          Totally agree, and your right ofcourse, but too many will have ready made excuses as to why there is nothing THEY can do, and we may as well just support, which is exactly what TOM HICKS said we'd do.
          Please yourself. Don't support the team if you don't want. Just stop patronising those that want to because they are not ignoring the other issues, or even being defeatist, they just enjoy cheering on their team and are not going let other fans or the owners stop them doing so.
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            Originally posted by Operation View Post
            It's not either/or. nor is it blindly accepting the decisions of parasite owners. Roy has been given the chance to manage a great club and I am sure he will do it with integrity. He is not responsible for the owners and I don't think worse of him for taking a job from them. He will get my support as a man tryig to achieve what he can with our team. To turn on him because if the ownership situation is very unfair IMO (including saying he won't get support from supposed fans).
            Whilst I argue my point I try not to dig at those that oppose my views, you make valid points about it not being his fault but imho he is way way off the standard to replace Benitez who was considered the right man for the reigning European champions.

            Woy has been given the opportunity not for his glorious past, nor his technical ability nor his motivational capabilities but for his ability to say yes.

            Thats why I am a trifle vocal.

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              Originally posted by Operation View Post
              Please yourself. Don't support the team if you don't want. Just stop patronising those that want to because they are not ignoring the other issues, or even being defeatist, they just enjoy cheering on their team and are not going let other fans or the owners stop them doing so.
              As i said, just like Hicks said it would be, we love cheering the team, but it stops there, even if the club is being ripped apart from within.
              Last edited by Vermilion; 30-06-10, 04:38 PM.

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                Originally posted by Frenchie View Post
                Whilst I argue my point I try not to dig at those that oppose my views, you make valid points about it not being his fault but imho he is way way off the standard to replace Benitez who was considered the right man for the reigning European champions.

                Woy has been given the opportunity not for his glorious past, nor his technical ability nor his motivational capabilities but for his ability to say yes.

                Thats why I am a trifle vocal.
                I understand that people aren't keen on his appointment, I am not exactly delighted, but I am responding to claims that people will not support him when he is Liverpool manager unless/until he delivers something. Such conditional support is not really support imo.
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                  Originally posted by Operation View Post
                  They're nice words, where did you get them from?
                  I take it you're taking the piss there mate!

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                    Originally posted by Operation View Post
                    Please yourself. Don't support the team if you don't want. Just stop patronising those that want to because they are not ignoring the other issues, or even being defeatist, they just enjoy cheering on their team and are not going let other fans or the owners stop them doing so.
                    head in the sand......

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                      Originally posted by Frenchie View Post
                      head in the sand......
                      As I said, don't support the team or the manager if you don't want to. It's your choice. Weird, but your choice.
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                        i cant believe he is looking down on guys who just want to support whoever plays in the red shirt of liverpool, its not their fault our owners are ******s, they dont deserve to not be supported by one of the best groups of fans in the world
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                          Originally posted by Operation View Post
                          I understand that people aren't keen on his appointment, I am not exactly delighted, but I am responding to claims that people will not support him when he is Liverpool manager unless/until he delivers something. Such conditional support is not really support imo.
                          There is right and wrong in this world and if we were owned by Bin Laden or some other despot would the same apply?

                          Because the 'wrong' in this scenario is the bleeding dry of the club by dealmakers then thats ok huh?

                          where do you draw the line or dont you care?

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                            Originally posted by Frenchie View Post
                            There is right and wrong in this world and if we were owned by Bin Laden or some other despot would the same apply?

                            Because the 'wrong' in this scenario is the bleeding dry of the club by dealmakers then thats ok huh?

                            where do you draw the line or dont you care?
                            wow, talk about insignificance.... World Terrorism vs A Football Club. Attack the owners for sure but there is absolutely no need to leave the players out to dry. That won't affect the owners at all, they aren't going to care if we dont chant Zamora from the stands at all... It will make no difference to them, they are business people...
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                              Originally posted by Frenchie View Post
                              head in the sand......
                              Originally posted by Operation View Post
                              As I said, don't support the team or the manager if you don't want to. It's your choice. Weird, but your choice.
                              Well said - we support LFC and should do it through thick and thin.

                              These ****ers are not good for us but LFC has had plenty of adversity and come through the other side!

                              Get behind your team or jog on!

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                                Originally posted by Frenchie View Post
                                There is right and wrong in this world and if we were owned by Bin Laden or some other despot would the same apply?

                                Because the 'wrong' in this scenario is the bleeding dry of the club by dealmakers then thats ok huh?

                                where do you draw the line or dont you care?
                                I think you are mixing up a few different concept here.

                                To cut a long story short, are you saying you're not a liverpool fan anymore because we're owned by wrong'uns?
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