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    Thank god I am not a manager as looking at this have no idea where to go.

    not because of today but because of 13 months or whatever of crap.

    Different managers different systems - same players and so far it looks crap.

    apart from pepe i dont know who i would keep at the moment. Thankfully tomorrow i will have calmed down but this is total crap.

    I think Rafa would have approached this better but with so little effort from the players we would still have been beaten.

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      Originally posted by Marsh View Post
      and zonal marking is evel soo much better when you mark man to man.
      Guys it's pointless arguing or debating this... We are where we are and H&G have and are running this club into the ground and at best we are a Europa League side

      Are only hope is massive investment and a change of ownership. The game has moved on a la City and we are miles behind.
      I will always blame Moores and Parry.

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        If rafa was in charge does anybody really think we'd be losin 3-0? No chance. 442 we look lost. As a club our worst fears our being played out in front of us. **** squad and no way were makin 4th. Torres will defo go with no champsions league next season. Like Roy but tactically inept so far.

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          Originally posted by cream View Post
          Can't be arsed with anymore of this, I'm out. Off to the mosque to pray for a miracle.
          Of the closet? I did have my suspicions...
          3rd place. Worst champions ever.

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            4th from bottom Not nice to see even only after 2 games.

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              We still have several of Rafa's ****ebag signing that just aren't good enough, i pray we can get one or two more signings and Cole back then hopefully this will be a distant memory, we had a horrible start in Arsenal and City lets hope we can push on

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                Originally posted by red g View Post
                Cheers masher u cunt .

                That's loyalty for u.

                And as for this shower of ****, embarrassing.
                As I said earlier, it's also to do with the transfer window still running into the first month of a season. It should of been sorted before the season started. If we are having a transfer window, which we obviously are, a player should not be able to play the first game of the season and score (Milner) and then move to another team in the same league or just play for one team and then in the next weeks join another team as it can screw players heads up (Mascha). It's just plain stupid that you can have a multi-million player at a team unable to play him and unable to replace him.

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                  Not many teams line up 442 anymore...for precisely the reason we are witnessing.
                  And 442 with nobody out wide who can get past a man... Shocking.
                  Rafa was one of the first managers in the prem to play 4231 and so many copy it now.
                  Modifying post.

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                    Originally posted by SimonNo7 View Post
                    Have we, I would of said we are about the same which explains why we aren't a team.
                    If you consider Joe Cole, Jovanovic and Poulsen an improvement over Benayoun, Riera and Mascherano, fair enough.

                    They're not.

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                      ****, this is going to be a long season.
                      Never knowingly optimistic

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                        Originally posted by Lisburn Red View Post
                        Guys it's pointless arguing or debating this... We are where we are and H&G have and are running this club into the ground and at best we are a Europa League side

                        Are only hope is massive investment and a change of ownership. The game has moved on a la City and we are miles behind.
                        oh it is the h&g fault that we are where we are.

                        We needed to keep building and have stalled. However other teams have gone past us.

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                          Buy defour,turan and Hazard,mr roy. this is bad real bad.

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                            I don't understand why when you can see that 442 isn't working at all, do you not make an attempt to alter it to try and get a foothold again???

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                              we're going to lose games this season, wow big shocker. only 18 to go to equal rafas haul eh.

                              Our season isn't about tonight ffs. I honestly can't believe the **** written in here. We were bad but we created a few decent chances and but for Hart would have scored and then who knows. Kuyt, Lucas & Skrtel were awful. 4-5-1 wouldn't have changed that.

                              Torres has got more match fitness and Roy will realise Lucas isn't very good. We'll improve, just have some faith.
                              Always borrow money from a pessimist. He won’t expect it back. Oscar Wilde

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                                Originally posted by Marsh View Post
                                oh it is the h&g fault that we are where we are.

                                We needed to keep building and have stalled. However other teams have gone past us.
                                We've lost too many good players and haven't replaced them. Our squad two years ago was pretty good, it's utter dog **** now. Our squad is far worse than people think, we're overrating it.

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