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    #16
    Originally posted by wildman View Post
    new owners will not want to groundshare thats for sure, why would you?? the only people it benefits is the council oh and everton
    Liverpool is socialist right?

    what is cheaper to build and thus offer less debt and more spending power.

    two stadiums(one of 60K capacity+ and one of 40K capacity+) or one of 60K+ capacity that celebrates the diversity of Liverpool and the shared values of Liverpool?
    Jacques Brel is alive and well and playing at Anfield

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      #17
      Originally posted by 5europeancups View Post
      Liverpool is socialist right?

      what is cheaper to build and thus offer less debt and more spending power.

      two stadiums(one of 60K capacity+ and one of 40K capacity+) or one of 60K+ capacity that celebrates the diversity of Liverpool and the shared values of Liverpool?
      I realize that this is not the popular opinion, but I am with you 100%. The benefits to the city of a single stadium are immense: infrastructure, policing and emergency services consolidation, traffic and transportation. Of course, there is the emotional argument, but the clubs will save money too (indeed, a joint stadium might well be financed in part by the city), money that -- as you have pointed out -- can be spent on the team.

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        #18
        Bull****. If new owners come in & just reduce the debt (doesn't even have to be fully paid off), then the banks will easily lend us the money for a new stadium (as it'll be self financing). Plus, with potential naming rights netting us £150 - 200m we won't have to borrow the full cost.

        Do one back to Corrie Bill!!!

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          #19
          I'm going to get shot at for this but if the Milan clubs can share and if Roma and Lazio can share then so can us and Everton.
          No.1 choice is our own 60,000 stadium with the capacity to increase again.
          No.2 choice is sharing a 60,000 stadium.

          Leaving Anfield is an absolute must in order to thrive and progress (unfortunatley and we can't develop the existing site properly)

          It would be interesting to know how many PL clubs have stadia with bigger capacities than ours.

          Fans main opposition to this is borne out of prejudice, ignorance and a refusal to look at all the facts objectively. Take the emotion out of the decision and it's a no brainer
          The King was back for a short while. Long live The King.

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            #20
            Originally posted by 5europeancups View Post
            Imagine you had an extra an extra 150m to spend on players because you had entered into a Ground Share agreement.

            Wouldnt that be welcome?

            I think a great football stadium up North could be just what the City needs and remember how many families in Liverpool are divided by there football support?
            Liverpool and Everton dont "hate" each other I would describe it as a healthy rivalry.
            By sharing a stadium it would only increase that intense rivalry.

            half my family are toffees.

            Its economic sense and most people once they get over the "shock of the new" will be just fine.
            I've been giving you the benefit of the doubt up to now in the face of some vitriolic abuse hurled your way here and there. But now I'm absolutely convinced you're a WUM at best and a club insider peddling an agenda at worst

            As a Scouser with 2 brothers, 2 sisters, 11 nephews, 1 niece, 8 uncles, 8 aunts and 56 cousins in a typically Scouse large family I can tell you that this myth about families being divided by football support is just that: a big fat myth.

            In my entire family there is just one of my nephews who supports Everton and that was just to spite his Liverpool-mad father. Everyone else does indeed hate Everton: there's no other word for it.

            I would also say that about 90% of families I know support one or other club with only a minority having shared loyalties.

            Not a single person in the family and not a single Liverpool supporter amongst my friends is in favour of groundshare. This crazy idea should be strangled at birth

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              #21
              Originally posted by 5europeancups View Post
              Liverpool is socialist right?

              what is cheaper to build and thus offer less debt and more spending power.

              two stadiums(one of 60K capacity+ and one of 40K capacity+) or one of 60K+ capacity that celebrates the diversity of Liverpool and the shared values of Liverpool?
              In fact, like elsewhere in the country, only the socialists in Liverpool are socialist. It's not North Korea.

              Any crazy notion that a short-term view will benefit us in the long-term, when the overwhelming winners in the equation - indeed the only winners - would be Everton, should be fought every step of the way

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                #22
                Originally posted by The Birdman View Post
                I'm going to get shot at for this but if the Milan clubs can share and if Roma and Lazio can share then so can us and Everton.
                No.1 choice is our own 60,000 stadium with the capacity to increase again.
                No.2 choice is sharing a 60,000 stadium.

                Leaving Anfield is an absolute must in order to thrive and progress (unfortunatley and we can't develop the existing site properly)

                It would be interesting to know how many PL clubs have stadia with bigger capacities than ours.

                Fans main opposition to this is borne out of prejudice, ignorance and a refusal to look at all the facts objectively. Take the emotion out of the decision and it's a no brainer
                It's short-termist

                All it would do is boost everton. The stadium would make a profit: from football and other events. Why share that? Makes no long term sense, financially or emotionally.
                Trey Nyoni: countdown to stardom- 2 years 1year 0.5 years

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                  #23
                  Originally posted by Operation View Post
                  It's short-termist

                  All it would do is boost everton. The stadium would make a profit: from football and other events. Why share that? Makes no long term sense, financially or emotionally.
                  Apart from beating them in every game, doing anything else with bitters makes no sense (apart from ripping the piss out of them)

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                    #24
                    Originally posted by Operation View Post
                    It's short-termist

                    All it would do is boost everton. The stadium would make a profit: from football and other events. Why share that? Makes no long term sense, financially or emotionally.
                    I agree with all of that but this is my point - you've brought up the reasons it would benefit Everton as why we shouldn't do it.

                    Surely it would benefit us???
                    We would fill 60,000 every home game thats 15,000 more paying supporters in every week at roughly £40 a ticket so 600k a game. Multiply the 600k by a minimum of 20 home games a season = £12,000,000. Add in merchandising etc... and that is 1 more quality player a season.

                    As long as we have owners who will re-invest this added income back into the playing side of the club we will start clawing back at Man U, Arsenal, Chelsea, Man City, Spurs, Villa all of whom are (arguably) ahead of us in terms of playing and financial resources.

                    Staying at Anfield blinded by history and sentiment will kill this club even with brand new shiney owners.
                    The King was back for a short while. Long live The King.

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                      #25
                      Originally posted by The Birdman View Post
                      I agree with all of that but this is my point - you've brought up the reasons it would benefit Everton as why we shouldn't do it.

                      Surely it would benefit us???
                      We would fill 60,000 every home game thats 15,000 more paying supporters in every week at roughly £40 a ticket so 600k a game. Multiply the 600k by a minimum of 20 home games a season = £12,000,000. Add in merchandising etc... and that is 1 more quality player a season.

                      As long as we have owners who will re-invest this added income back into the playing side of the club we will start clawing back at Man U, Arsenal, Chelsea, Man City, Spurs, Villa all of whom are (arguably) ahead of us in terms of playing and financial resources.

                      Staying at Anfield blinded by history and sentiment will kill this club even with brand new shiney owners.

                      Seats in a Liverpool stadium have to be Red, there is no place in our stadium for blue****e coloured seats.

                      While we are on the subject of blue. Whoever, came up with that blue keeper strip Pepe had to wear should be executed for treason....its a ****ing disgrace!!!

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                        #26
                        He can **** right off. Never share a ground with that lot.

                        I remember the story about the last meeting we had with them with regards to this. Basically Kenwright and his cronies come into the meeting and proposed that We (LFC) Build the ground, pay for it and they pay us rent for a couple of years then take 50% ownership of the ground. To which he was laughed out of the meeting.
                        Last edited by Leyton388; 28-09-10, 04:56 PM.

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                          #27
                          Originally posted by Assassin View Post
                          Seats in a Liverpool stadium have to be Red, there is no place in our stadium for blue****e coloured seats.

                          While we are on the subject of blue. Whoever, came up with that blue keeper strip Pepe had to wear should be executed for treason....its a ****ing disgrace!!!
                          Our 'home end' (not sure it should be referred to as the Kop, only ever be one of those) can replicate the plans discussed in the recent stadium designs to capture the atmosphere etc...... all those seats can be red.

                          Is it a massive big deal if the 'away end' (Everton's home end when they play home) seats are blue??

                          **** me the rest of the seats can be putrid green for all I care, it's a seat after all
                          The King was back for a short while. Long live The King.

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                            #28
                            Does groundshare work ok in Milan (a lot bigger than Liverpool) with the San Siro? If so, the objections to it in Liverpool seem purely sentimental.

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                              #29
                              Originally posted by The Birdman View Post
                              I agree with all of that but this is my point - you've brought up the reasons it would benefit Everton as why we shouldn't do it.

                              Surely it would benefit us???
                              We would fill 60,000 every home game thats 15,000 more paying supporters in every week at roughly £40 a ticket so 600k a game. Multiply the 600k by a minimum of 20 home games a season = £12,000,000. Add in merchandising etc... and that is 1 more quality player a season.

                              As long as we have owners who will re-invest this added income back into the playing side of the club we will start clawing back at Man U, Arsenal, Chelsea, Man City, Spurs, Villa all of whom are (arguably) ahead of us in terms of playing and financial resources.

                              Staying at Anfield blinded by history and sentiment will kill this club even with brand new shiney owners.
                              I think you missed my point. It's not that it will benefit everton, it's thy the benefits to us will be less, for decades. We need our own ground, more long term revenue, more money, more success. It's worth the wait to go it alone, for as long as it's still a possibility.
                              Trey Nyoni: countdown to stardom- 2 years 1year 0.5 years

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                                #30
                                Originally posted by banditos View Post
                                Does groundshare work ok in Milan (a lot bigger than Liverpool) with the San Siro? If so, the objections to it in Liverpool seem purely sentimental.
                                Inter are wanting to move to their own ground.

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