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Everton Chairman Bill Kenwright Open To The Idea Of Ground Sharing With Liverpool

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    #31
    Why's that?

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      #32
      If we get new owners and reduce the debt then we can afford our own stadium. In fact, I'm sure I've read reports in the past that the deal is already in place to borrow the money, secured against future revenue, but that it can't go ahead whilst we are spending all our profits servicing the current debt.

      IMO this is only going to happen if H&G manage to somehow cling onto the club. Maybe it's being floated now as a way they can build the stadium if they manage to refinance the debt (using Everton's contribution to help cover the loan whilst the stadium is being built - might be more acceptable to the lenders). Once the stadium is built, the value of the club could increase to a level that would give them a profit on their investment again. So no to groundshare!
      Last edited by calvoboy; 28-09-10, 08:12 PM.

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        #33
        Originally posted by Tee View Post
        That will be the last straw for me.
        Same here.

        Originally posted by 5europeancups View Post
        Imagine you had an extra an extra 150m to spend on players because you had entered into a Ground Share agreement.

        Wouldnt that be welcome?

        I think a great football stadium up North could be just what the City needs and remember how many families in Liverpool are divided by there football support?
        Liverpool and Everton dont "hate" each other I would describe it as a healthy rivalry.
        By sharing a stadium it would only increase that intense rivalry.

        half my family are toffees.

        Its economic sense and most people once they get over the "shock of the new" will be just fine.
        No it wouldn't. If it would, why ManU and ManCity didn't share one or why any big London club didn't do the same.

        It makes more economical sense to build one on its own and don't share profits after the stadium is paid in full.

        Originally posted by Operation View Post
        It's short-termist

        All it would do is boost everton. The stadium would make a profit: from football and other events. Why share that? Makes no long term sense, financially or emotionally.
        Absolutely. It would help Everton for sure and it would not really help us.

        For me, it is not something we should do. Imagine if Anfield was shared..
        Member #1 of the Luis Suarez fan club

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          #34
          Originally posted by bobbyfallon View Post
          how would everton plan to fill a 60'000 seater stadium?? and how would we fill it the way things are going either?? most important thing now is get the yanks out and then worry about a stadium.
          They can hire Tranmere rovers fans

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            #35
            Originally posted by liverpooltj View Post
            Inter are wanting to move to their own ground.
            Where did you hear this? Any links?

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              #36
              A 60k stadium (with loads of money rich coroporate boxes) shared with Everton would be a better bet than keeping Anfield.

              A 60k stadium of our own would of course make much more sense. Could hamstring us short term (10 years?), but would be much better in the future as all the proift would be our own, plus we'd have our own identity.

              I'd rather we went it alone tbh.
              Forwards.......

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                #37
                Originally posted by Daniel Torres View Post
                Where did you hear this? Any links?
                Member #1 of the Luis Suarez fan club

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                  #38
                  I'd rather gnaw off my own testicles. However I fear that this story is rearing its ugly head again because it is on the agenda again. Only this time I think it is decidedly more likely to happen.
                  Last edited by Tatterdemalion; 28-09-10, 09:52 PM. Reason: ........meh.......
                  Really?

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Redspin View Post
                    I've been giving you the benefit of the doubt up to now in the face of some vitriolic abuse hurled your way here and there. But now I'm absolutely convinced you're a WUM at best and a club insider peddling an agenda at worst

                    As a Scouser with 2 brothers, 2 sisters, 11 nephews, 1 niece, 8 uncles, 8 aunts and 56 cousins in a typically Scouse large family I can tell you that this myth about families being divided by football support is just that: a big fat myth.

                    In my entire family there is just one of my nephews who supports Everton and that was just to spite his Liverpool-mad father. Everyone else does indeed hate Everton: there's no other word for it.

                    I would also say that about 90% of families I know support one or other club with only a minority having shared loyalties.

                    Not a single person in the family and not a single Liverpool supporter amongst my friends is in favour of groundshare. This crazy idea should be strangled at birth
                    Weird. I work with 2 scousers, both of whom have divided family loyalties when it comes to football. They are both avid Liverpool fans married to Evertonians and from what i can gather, it's pretty much 50/50 in the support stakes in the families, and apart from the general ribbing, there's no hatred or animosity in evidence at any other time.

                    Just because your family is bitter towards other teams, doesn't mean others are as petty and small-minded.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Scratch View Post
                      Weird. I work with 2 scousers, both of whom have divided family loyalties when it comes to football. They are both avid Liverpool fans married to Evertonians and from what i can gather, it's pretty much 50/50 in the support stakes in the families, and apart from the general ribbing, there's no hatred or animosity in evidence at any other time.

                      Just because your family is bitter towards other teams, doesn't mean others are as petty and small-minded.
                      Our family's split too. Slightly more reds than blues, but plenty supporting each. No out and out bitter hatred either. Some take the rivalry more seriously than others, and everyone winds each other up, but it's not hatred like with the Mancs.

                      None have ever said they'd support a groundshare though, apart from one cousin who was briefly suggesting it immediately after their Kings Dock idea collapsed. Out of desperation rather than considered thought...

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                        #41
                        im in favour of a groundshare. here's why

                        finances would be better for us
                        everton v liverpool would again become the friendly but proper rivalry it once was.
                        I want everton to be reasonably strong as i want them as rivals at the top of the league.
                        Its good for the city and good for lfc. local competition gave us an added impetus/drive in the 80s. we miss that now imho.
                        needs to be 70k+ tho. remove the ST waiting list and get in all the local kids for a 5er if necessary to fill it.

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                          #42
                          **** groundshare, why don't we just go for a merger with Everton.
                          "Its not about the long ball or the short ball, its about the right ball." Bob Paisley

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                            #43
                            I wish this whole groundshare thing would go away, very few fans of either side want it
                            The only gracious way to accept an insult is to ignore it; if you can't ignore it, top it; if you can't top it, laugh at it; if you can't laugh at it, it's probably deserved.

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                              #44
                              Originally posted by Exiled_red View Post
                              I wish this whole groundshare thing would go away, very few fans of either side want it
                              It's not about the fans, don't you know?
                              3rd place. Worst champions ever.

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                                #45
                                Originally posted by 5europeancups View Post
                                Liverpool is socialist right?

                                what is cheaper to build and thus offer less debt and more spending power.

                                two stadiums(one of 60K capacity+ and one of 40K capacity+) or one of 60K+ capacity that celebrates the diversity of Liverpool and the shared values of Liverpool?


                                A club with a shared stadium would be worth less than a club who was the sole owner of that stadium

                                They are already struggling to find someone willing to meet their valuation

                                What they would save in the build costs would probably cost them in terms of profitability
                                Bob Paisley - "This club has been my life. I'd go out and sweep the street and be proud to do it for Liverpool if they asked me to."

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