Soto

[RedReet]

Seriously though, behave you lot, just because Fredo's not here anymore

Reece is totally spot on with what he posted above btw, I'd have said the same only probably less politely. Its pretty distasteful reading everyone pick on a poster for the heinous crime of being a bit confused and contradictory on the internet. I'm sure everybody involved has always been 100% consistent in their views.....

And I'd have said the same definitely less politely.

Sin bin the lot of them. Pesky internet terrorists!!!

[MrMichael]

We're talking in general Neil, not specifics. Read the thread from the beginning, people were lining up for a pop before he ever even posted in the thread. I've no objection to anyone discussing or disagreeing of course, but petty point scoring and pigeonholing is hardly constructive, or leads to good debate. There's nothing I dislike more than "personality posting", especially when its being done by some people who have suffered from the same thing themselves in the past. So we're drawing a line before it gets out of control.

[Alex]

Must admit i get a bit bored when every thread turns into the same argument. Which is why i really only post in the match threads.

Just a thought though. Are people not allowed to change there opinions?

[Craig_H]

Must admit i get a bit bored when every thread turns into the same argument. Which is why i really only post in the match threads.

Just a thought though. Are people not allowed to change there opinions?

Course they are. Just acknowledge that it's been changed

Apologies to danperkins if i went too far. Sunday nights....y'know

[MrMichael]

Must admit i get a bit bored when every thread turns into the same argument. Which is why i really only post in the match threads.

Just a thought though. Are people not allowed to change there opinions?

No. You must take a position and stick to it no matter what, changing your mind is a sign of weakness you must be punished for

[Scratch]

Must admit i get a bit bored when every thread turns into the same argument. Which is why i really only post in the match threads.

Just a thought though. Are people not allowed to change there opinions?

Don't think perkins has changed his opinion. He admits Soto has been a good signing for us, but he's right in the fact that does not make him a good footballer, cos he isn't. He's decent enough, but a decent, pacy forward could rip him to pieces...good in the air yes, but so am I...i'm still not LFC standard tho.

Put it this way, is he the sort of player that, if he played for another club, we should be targetting? Probably not. And that says it all, decent signing, but not a good footballer overall.

[Neil Young]

We're talking in general Neil, not specifics. Read the thread from the beginning, people were lining up for a pop before he ever even posted in the thread. I've no objection to anyone discussing or disagreeing of course, but petty point scoring and pigeonholing is hardly constructive, or leads to good debate. There's nothing I dislike more than "personality posting", especially when its being done by some people who have suffered from the same thing themselves in the past. So we're drawing a line before it gets out of control.

OK, but I just wanted to make sure you're not including me in your sweeping judgements on the matter. I don't want to say any more on this thread as I respect your decision even while disagreeing with it and besides some of our more focused members might prefer a reversion to the thread topic than to continue a tangential discussion on the rights and wrongs of any particular poster, confused or not.

Accordingly if you'd like to take it up further with me then I suggest PMs would be more appropriate.

Before finishing however I'd just like to put on record that I've noted Mr Perkins is very tenacious in fighting his corner and that's an admirable trait to have (unless you're a boxer).

[MrMichael]

Understood Neil

[Muddled]

From the match thread:

Zorba the Greek is the best threat from corners since Hyypia.

He's done what was expected, and a little more besides.

He's a good option against the more physical teams in the Premiership and chips in with an aerial threat from set-pieces (something key under Roy Hodgson). As I said also - he has the turning circile of an articulated lorry and would struggle against a nippy striker, but for £1.5m he's been a good signing, with extra kudos for crippling Fellaini.

[banditos]

I would even venture to say that he's actually more of a threat from set pieces than Sami was, just slightly mind, as Sami was bloody good too.

[danperkins]

I will stick my neck out here and say I honestly don't understand what the big deal is about dan perkins opinion towards Soto?

Soto is far from a good player but he is a decent signing, what is the problem with that? seriously? Maxi was a good player that have turned out to be an awfull signing thus far - same logic, what would be the problem with that.

There are plenty of examples of good players turning out to be poor signings (Kewell springs to mind) and poor players doing a decent job (Traore springs to mind).

Is dan perkins just getting stick because people disagreed with him over Rafa needing to go?, which I and a lot of others agree with. At the end of last season on here it was about 50/50 in the poll if he should stay or not, so plenty of discussion on the topic for sure.

Or is this just an example of the group mentality, where apparently someone has to get picked at and now that Fredo is gone someone else have to become a favorite target?

Seriously I don't understand what the problem is by saying he is a poor player but have turned out to be a decent signing? can anyone explain that?

Thanks mate appreciate that.

[danperkins]

I was considering calling the samaritans

[Darkon]

Thanks mate appreciate that.

no worries

[Frenchie]

Isn't Dan Perkins the name of a car dealership?

[lickedlollipop]

he's already a little bit a cult player, isn't he?