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  • Redspin
    Not even the slightest bit grumpy
    • Jul 2006
    • 2600

    #106
    Originally posted by Zapater
    I'm a fan of the notion of seeing him and Agger paired together, as his size and strength coupled with Agger's reading and ball playing ability could very well be a match made in heaven, on paper anyway. Although, I doubt everyone's favourite uncle Roy would allow that any time soon.



    He's been our only consistent goal threat this season.

    On a more serious note, (well I wish it was) the thing is though do you see either Carragher or Skrtel offering anything he can't? Yes they are marginally better with the ball at their feet but they have been poor this season and last in my opinion. Last season when things were dire the Greek stepped up big time. People can say what they want but he's certainly never let us down and he's been very whole hearted and that's all you can ask for. In addition to this his aerial prowess is something that many have highlighted as what we're missing at the back, so until we can sign someone better I think on the basis of form and appearances he deserves to be starting more than our other defenders.

    As well as that, don't kid yourself; for the time being we need to be the "best we can be" rather than saying we need the squad of title aspirer's. That luxury left along with Rafa before the season even started.
    I can't agree that the two hoofers Carragher and Skrtel, particularly Jamie "Row Z" Carragher are in anyway better than Kyrgiakos with the ball. I watched him closely yesterday and there's only Agger who'd be better on the deck than him. Not only is he at least the equal of Carra and Skrtel in defence, he's a constant threat up front, whereas the other two offer zero threat. I'd have him and Agger as first choice any day of the week

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    • Redspin
      Not even the slightest bit grumpy
      • Jul 2006
      • 2600

      #107
      Originally posted by Scratch
      Don't think perkins has changed his opinion. He admits Soto has been a good signing for us, but he's right in the fact that does not make him a good footballer, cos he isn't. He's decent enough, but a decent, pacy forward could rip him to pieces...good in the air yes, but so am I...i'm still not LFC standard tho.

      Put it this way, is he the sort of player that, if he played for another club, we should be targetting? Probably not. And that says it all, decent signing, but not a good footballer overall.
      Name one - just one - forward that's ripped him to pieces

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      • The Birdman
        Dalglish
        • Aug 2006
        • 3690

        #108
        His 2 footed challenge on Fellani was worth £1.5 mill alone!
        Personally I'd rather see Wilson or Ayala getting more minutes or in the current situation Kelly at RB and Carra playing CB.

        Soto is a stop gap, 4th choice CB should be a young player striving to impress and improve and to break into the team not a 30 odd yr old.

        In my opinion of course
        The King was back for a short while. Long live The King.

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        • Neil Young
          Prosecco Socialist
          • Aug 2006
          • 62564

          #109
          Hang on, if I remember correctly, Kyrgiakos's tackle on Fellaini was less dangerous than Fellaini's on him. If he hadn't been injured in the process or had the referee been less inept then the well-known captainfog impressionist would have received a red too and possibly even instead.
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          Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.



          May the Lord bless this post.

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          • Fernandinho
            Where the bloody hell are ya?
            • Mar 2010
            • 8558

            #110
            Originally posted by Neil Young
            Hang on, if I remember correctly, Kyrgiakos's tackle on Fellaini was less dangerous than Fellaini's on him. If he hadn't been injured in the process or had the referee been less inept then the well-known captainfog impressionist would have received a red too and possibly even instead.
            Too true. Fellaini had both studs raised into Soto. Soto if I remember didn't even connect with his studs half as bad as Fellaini, who got injured as he landed?
            96 Never Forgotten

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            • Muddled
              Meat Shield
              • Jul 2010
              • 25665

              #111
              Originally posted by Neil Young
              Hang on, if I remember correctly, Kyrgiakos's tackle on Fellaini was less dangerous than Fellaini's on him. If he hadn't been injured in the process or had the referee been less inept then the well-known captainfog impressionist would have received a red too and possibly even instead.
              Kyrgiakos's went to 'do' Fellaini, Fellaini saw it coming and went to 'do' Kyrgiakos too, with Kyrgiakos doing it on the ground and Fellaini leaving the ground. If memory servves me right.

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              • Scratch
                If you fail once....
                • Jul 2006
                • 7885

                #112
                Originally posted by Muddled
                Kyrgiakos's went to 'do' Fellaini, Fellaini saw it coming and went to 'do' Kyrgiakos too, with Kyrgiakos doing it on the ground and Fellaini leaving the ground. If memory servves me right.
                Not how i remember it...i remember afroman lunging in, 2 footed, and Soto jumping out of the way of the challenge, but deciding that the tacklers leg looked like a prime place to land.

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                • Muddled
                  Meat Shield
                  • Jul 2010
                  • 25665

                  #113


                  Not the best image, granted - but I can't access anything that *moves* (a la YouTube) at work.

                  Zorba the Greek going in two footed, Fellaini leaving the ground.

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                  • banditos
                    Rocket Surgeon
                    • Mar 2008
                    • 2179

                    #114
                    Originally posted by Scratch
                    Not how i remember it...i remember afroman lunging in, 2 footed, and Soto jumping out of the way of the challenge, but deciding that the tacklers leg looked like a prime place to land.
                    Close but no cigar. Soto was the one sliding in and Screech did the jumping. Soto never made contact, but Fellati stomped his ankle and ****ed up his own at the same time. Cards should have been the other way round.

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                    • Redspin
                      Not even the slightest bit grumpy
                      • Jul 2006
                      • 2600

                      #115
                      Originally posted by The Birdman
                      His 2 footed challenge on Fellani was worth £1.5 mill alone!
                      Personally I'd rather see Wilson or Ayala getting more minutes or in the current situation Kelly at RB and Carra playing CB.

                      Soto is a stop gap, 4th choice CB should be a young player striving to impress and improve and to break into the team not a 30 odd yr old.

                      In my opinion of course
                      A 30-odd year old with more than 60 international caps is a better bet than the likes of Ayala (still don't think he'll be good enough) or Wilson - at the moment - even my Rangers' mates said he was merely a good prospect who did well in the piss poor Scottish league and didn't think he was ready for the English top flight, although he may well be in a couple of seasons. At the moment we don't have the luxury of being able to nurse young CBs along, so a vastly-experienced proven international who's already impressed in the Premier League is easily the best bet for us

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                      • The_weatherman
                        Smug
                        • Nov 2006
                        • 14177

                        #116
                        I think Ayala is where he should be right, playing in the Championship, perhaps Wilson should be loaned out as well to a top Championship team.
                        * The above is posted in my opinion. Feel free to disagree.

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                        • Pablo
                          Anti-Antipodeanite
                          • May 2007
                          • 25808

                          #117
                          Any update on how Ayala has been getting on lately?

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                          • RedReet
                            Fantasy Football Champion
                            • Dec 2006
                            • 25265

                            #118
                            Originally posted by Pablo1981
                            Any update on how Ayala has been getting on lately?
                            Did there not used to be a sticky for loan updates? I’ve been curious about a few myself but too lazy to research.
                            If we are all only happy when we are really winning in the end, when your race finishes, what life would that be?

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                            • Fernandinho
                              Where the bloody hell are ya?
                              • Mar 2010
                              • 8558

                              #119
                              Originally posted by RedReet
                              Did there not used to be a sticky for loan updates? I’ve been curious about a few myself but too lazy to research.
                              Hull are doing quite badly and are currently sitting in 19th place 5 points from the relegation zone. I had a flick through the line ups and it looks like he has been starting for them. After having a good start I can only assume that as the team has been peforming poorly he has too. But that is pure assumption.
                              96 Never Forgotten

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                              • Muddled
                                Meat Shield
                                • Jul 2010
                                • 25665

                                #120
                                Originally posted by Fernandinho
                                Hull are doing quite badly and are currently sitting in 19th place 5 points from the relegation zone. I had a flick through the line ups and it looks like he has been starting for them. After having a good start I can only assume that as the team has been peforming poorly he has too. But that is pure assumption.
                                Assumption is the mother of all **** ups.










                                However, I think you're right to make that assumption.

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