Why? They're not sending the team out. They're talking to us.
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Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.
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Would that be a bad thing though?? Torres clearly is not happy at liverpool at the moment and as they say there is no quick fix. Of course a fit and happy Torres I want to keep and build the squad around him that goes without saying but if he wants to go let him the same goes for anyone else who does not want to play for us or believes they should decide what happens within the team or who manages the team. In 3-5 years there should be a new stadium or a redeveloped Anfield increased revenue and a much improved squad. As depressing as it is if we don't get 4th this year which seems unlikely we won't have champions league football until the 2012 season anyway so 3-5 years especially if they are looking for young players to have in the squad for a number of years is reasonable. As long as we can see improvement and that things are getting better then I will be happy. I would rather see the signs of improvement over the next few years and judge NESV then rather than after 3 monthsOriginally posted by Vermilion View PostWell for me, it all seems a far cry from what Broughton promised us, these people will say what you want to hear within reason, action is the standard i'll be judging them by, and so far i see very little, ok early days, but smart talk and promises won't do anything for me, i'll believe it when i see it.
And to say 3-5 yrs before we can win silverware...well...bye bye Torres.You never know, football is football. It could be in five years' time, ten years' time, two years' time. We have two years of a contract here, we are really pleased here, the people are very nice, the fans are very similar to Liverpool fans, with passion, so everything is going well."
But Liverpool is home? "Yeah-it's the only house we have. Liverpool is my home and I will come back."
Rafa Benitez -October 2010
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That phone in went a long way to correct that.Originally posted by Neil Young View Post
I also think the charge that LFC is still Pravda is way off the mark. I think it was justifiable towards the end of Purslow's tenure as MD but the fact so many critical callers got through yesterday proves it's no longer a valid charge. Anyone who remembers soviet-era Pravda would recognise that no criticism was ever allowed.Are we winning?
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Yeah, yeah.Originally posted by NigelLG View Post
Seriously Nigey, what do you expect them to say? We disagree with what Roy is doing? We have reservations about what Roy is doing? We don't want to say what we think about what Roy is doing?
Anything other than a bland endorsement would make things worse...unless they sack him on the spot and replace him with someone better..
Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.
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It was final confirmation of what had already started to become clear.Originally posted by NigelLG View PostThat phone in went a long way to correct that.
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Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.
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It would have been better not to say anything, no endorsement or anything. From what I've read, Werner isn't putting himself as being knowledgeable that much. The least we would expect from him, as Chief Executive, is to know the full facts and to be in a position to make assumptions based on that. He got it all wrong when Henry corrected him and it was a bit of farce.Originally posted by Neil Young View PostYeah, yeah.
Seriously Nigey, what do you expect them to say? We disagree with what Roy is doing? We have reservations about what Roy is doing? We don't want to say what we think about what Roy is doing?
Anything other than a bland endorsement would make things worse...unless they sack him on the spot and replace him with someone better.Are we winning?
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I think you're being a bit unrealistic. They can't say nothing. They can say next to nothing and that's what they did. As Chris said, they didn't hold back on admitting the poor record under Hodgson..
Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.
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JWH at the end also said something along the lines of 'sometimes doing the quick thing is not the best thing to do for the long run'.
Now I took this to mean, in terms of our manager and probably incorrectly, that they are looking at a change but won't do it in a knee-jerk kind of way, possibly that they have someone in mind/lined up but they are not available right now.
You could also assume, which is nearly always wrong to do so, that in their conversations with The King that they have put it to him about coming in on a temporary basis and that he doesn't want to do it, that they should make sure they get the right man.
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Originally posted by Neil Young View PostI think you're being a bit unrealistic. They can't say nothing. They can say next to nothing and that's what they did. As Chris said, they didn't hold back on admitting the poor record under Hodgson.
Goes back to the old 'vote of confidence'. How many times have you heard a chairman say the manager is doing a good job and they back them only to fire them the next day.
We have got to realise that these guys do not have to and quite rightly will not tell us everything. I get it from my staff thinking that us Directors should tell them everything we are thinking of doing with the business when in reality somethings have to be done behind closed doors without their knowledge. Getting back to our clubs owners and Roy, they are certainly not going to say they don't back him on a live phone-in. If they did then we would be in trouble.
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He's the chairman - semantic's but if you're going to talk about full facts!Originally posted by NigelLG View PostIt would have been better not to say anything, no endorsement or anything. From what I've read, Werner isn't putting himself as being knowledgeable that much. The least we would expect from him, as Chief Executive, is to know the full facts and to be in a position to make assumptions based on that. He got it all wrong when Henry corrected him and it was a bit of farce.
Henry and Werner are not going to give Royston both barrels over a phone in, it's unprofessional to critisise an emplyee like that in public and would perhaps undermine anyone else that follows Roy through the door.
What I do expect is that they listened and listened closely to both those that got through to the phone in but also the number of questions that weren't aired on the show about how poor a job Roy is doing.
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Originally posted by SimonNo7 View PostJWH at the end also said something along the lines of 'sometimes doing the quick thing is not the best thing to do for the long run'.
Now I took this to mean, in terms of our manager and probably incorrectly, that they are looking at a change but won't do it in a knee-jerk kind of way, possibly that they have someone in mind/lined up but they are not available right now.
You could also assume, which is nearly always wrong to do so, that in their conversations with The King that they have put it to him about coming in on a temporary basis and that he doesn't want to do it, that they should make sure they get the right man.
I also got the feeling that this was in reference to replacing Roy, although this may have been influenced by the fact that i'd just yelled at the screen, "Why don't you ****in' get rid of Hodgson then!"
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He said it once from what I recall and that was to say the were not in sync with supporters regarding timeframes for things improving.The point was made that the quick decisions are not always the best ones and they repeated that a number of times so to be honest I was completely discouraged by that.Originally posted by Lecter View PostThe thing that I found more encouraging than anything was Henry's use of the phrase "in sync with the fans". He used it a number of times in regards to discussions about Roy
IF the owners truley are "in sync with the fans" then Roys days are very much numbered
The only thing regarding roy the said was that he's not here long enough and results must improve.
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That's your problem.Originally posted by The_weatherman View PostI don't care, I hate that line..
Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.
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