Luis Suárez

[Neil Young]

Will take a lot more than someone wanting a transfer to make me fall out of love with football.

What else an I gonna follow, ****ing cycling?!

Come on Doggy, you know you wanna bite...

And the answer is yes.

Time was that you could have sensible, reasonable conversations with fans of other sides (bar the odd manc exception) but now they are mostly delusional, rose tinted doctrinaires.

It's all so tedious.

But it's a good point. Since I started rubbing I've found that I give less of a **** about football.

[Aj34]

For me the fact it's all being done in the open through the media is what riles me. Of course it's always gone on or there would be very few transfers around. It's not " the Liverpool way ".

[Arn]

One question I always end up asking myself is why we didn't sue a few papers that branded Suarez a racist, like The Mirror?

Why didn't we do that at that time?

He isn't a racist and wasn't banned eight games because of racism.

So again, why didn't we sue a few papers that branded him a racist?

[PTP]

You don't see cricketers biting or flicking bogies

nope....they just go around pissing on other humans

[el matador]

Fair points but his case is pretty unique in terms of the offences committed, punishments received, support given by fans, club and players then decides to go and mouth off in the press calling the manager a liar and talking about loyalty and gentleman's agreements.

I suspect many would have had no issue if he'd said, "I want to leave, i want to go and play abroad". He's changed his story and frankly his case isn't really comparable to the likes of Costa, Kewell etc. It's about loyalty and showing some respect for the backing he received.

loyalty is another concept thats meaningless these days. we want players to be loyal to us but we dont show any loyalty back.

andy carroll was treated poorly by the club. where's the loyalty there ?

when we as a club dont want a player for whatever reason we will get rid of them without a second thought. But when a player who we want to keep wishes to leave he's disloyal.

[Neil Young]

For me the fact it's all being done in the open through the media is what riles me. Of course it's always gone on or there would be very few transfers around. It's not " the Liverpool way ".

It's the way it is. The old Liverpool Way wouldn't work and that's why no one does it, including LFC.

Besides, it wasn't the Liverpool Way for fans to mope and moan and cheer and generally talk utter bilge on the internet either because it didn't exist. Yet here we all are.

[Arn]

loyalty is another concept thats meaningless these days. we want players to be loyal to us but we dont show any loyalty back.

andy carroll was treated poorly by the club. where's the loyalty there ?

when we as a club dont want a player for whatever reason we will get rid of them without a second thought. But when a player who we want to keep wishes to leave he's disloyal.

[RichC]

One question I always end up asking myself is why we didn't sue a few papers that branded Suarez a racist, like The Mirror?

Why didn't we do that at that time?

He isn't a racist and wasn't banned eight games because of racism.

So again, why didn't we sue a few papers that branded him a racist?

And drag the club through more mud? We lost essentially and took the ban handed out by the FA, nothing good would come of pursuing a rag like the Mirror in the courts.

[Aj34]

It's the way it is. The old Liverpool Way wouldn't work and that's why no one does it, including LFC.

Besides, it wasn't the Liverpool Way for fans to mope and moan and cheer and generally talk utter bilge on the internet either because it didn't exist. Yet here we all are.

I agree it couldn't work these days, but at least show a bit of dignity towards the club that currently pay your wages and keep quiet. Wishful thinking I know

[Baracus]

Amazing Owen and Torres come out of this looking far better. Who'd a thought that.

RIP Luis

[el matador]

Amazing Owen and Torres come out of this looking far better. Who'd a thought that.

RIP Luis

[McDermotX]

One question I always end up asking myself is why we didn't sue a few papers that branded Suarez a racist, like The Mirror?

Why didn't we do that at that time?

He isn't a racist and wasn't banned eight games because of racism.

So again, why didn't we sue a few papers that branded him a racist?

Why didn't Suarez sue ??

If he's such a standup guy, driven by his individualism, then the club's stance should've had no bearing on him.

[Neil Young]

loyalty is another concept thats meaningless these days. we want players to be loyal to us but we dont show any loyalty back.

andy carroll was treated poorly by the club. where's the loyalty there ?

when we as a club dont want a player for whatever reason we will get rid of them without a second thought. But when a player who we want to keep wishes to leave he's disloyal.

I take your point about loyalty being a two-way street.

Applies to the fans too...

I think loyalty has pretty much always been a meaningless concept in professional football. When players were paid a pittance, the clubs had them over a barrel. When the maximum wage was abolished the clubs still had them over the same barrel, they just paid them a bit more. And players didn't really want to move that much anyway - people generally were less mobile, fewer moved around, and footballers weren't much different. Playing for their home town club, earning more than they'd get in a sh*t factory job or whatever, of course they stayed.

When freedom of contract - the Bosman ruling - came in then the balance of power changed quite a bit. And of course the massive rewards - for clubs as well as players - has affected things. And the proliferation of media and football's ridiculously overhyped profile all make situations far more explosive and mercenary. Imagine how pitiful Jim White's career would be without players moving left, right and centre a couple of times a year?

But back in prehistory a lot of players stayed a long time at clubs because few had any other option. The only thing that ever really helped players was when more than one club wanted them and that usually only happened to the very best. Which is why it's always been that the clubs that pay the highest wages win the league.

That's not say that some - perhaps many - didn't feel a genuine affection and commitment to the club they played for but it was a result of circumstances really. It looked like loyalty, an emotional attachment, and maybe it felt like that to them too but cognitive dissonance is like that.

[Havors]

They play in the CL every season.
If FFP comes into play then they are probably the second richest club on the planet. Man U being the richest one.
They play in London.
They have an excellent manager. He moans a lot and is a bit blind but he is still excellent.
He got a history of getting the best out of his players.

No, I'm not supporting Arsenal. I just try to see why he want to move to them.

Wow ive heard the stories, now ive read it for myself. You really do talk bollocks.

Do you have an obsessive compulsive need to contradict everything everyone says?

[marcus50bucks]

For God's sake man, just get on with it. Seriously. This is exactly how the conversation between Suarez and the Anfield hierarchy is going every time this challenge is threatened.

"I'll take legal action you know?"

"Fine, go ahead."

"I mean it. I'm going to do it."

"We heard you. Call your lawyer. Be our guest. You’ll lose."

"This is your last warning. Sell me now or I'm going to see you in court."

"There is no exit clause, Luis. Do what you want."

"I'm going to count to ten now and if you haven't sold me, I'm taking legal action. One... (two week pause)... Two..."