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    Originally posted by JohnDoe View Post
    True. When Carroll is on the pitch, we take the easy route too often and just launch the ball at him. It's not his fault, but his mere presence on the pitch brings this behavior out. When Kenny took him off for Suarez, he forced us to keep it on the deck and we looked much better. Kenny needs to make it clear that these long balls to Carroll are unacceptable. Carragher is often the biggest culprit.
    It's because his movement isn't very good, he needs to do better. I don't think he's good enough to be in the starting XI at this point in time. He's a massive presence and scares defenders though, but even his heading of the ball isn't good enough for someone like him, due to his poor positioning.
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      Originally posted by Shaggy View Post
      Completely agree. We've got to keep the fluid passing and moving, whoever's up front.
      Carroll hasn't the wit or speed of thought to do that. He is not good enough.

      Worst number 9 we have ever had. Bar Diouf.

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        Originally posted by NigelLG View Post
        It's because his movement isn't very good, he needs to do better. I don't think he's good enough to be in the starting XI at this point in time. He's a massive presence and scares defenders though, but even his heading of the ball isn't good enough for someone like him, due to his poor positioning.
        Yes. He looks like he is rocking on his ****ing heels most of the time. No anticipation, and goes over far too easily.

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          Originally posted by Daniel 7 View Post
          Carroll hasn't the wit or speed of thought to do that. He is not good enough.

          Worst number 9 we have ever had. Bar Diouf.
          That's a bit unfair though. I think he'll improve and do well in time, but he's got to learn quick. We need a new striker and one maybe more mobile. As long as he gives us options, it'll be good but we shouldn't rely on Carroll to win us games.
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            Originally posted by Shaggy View Post
            Not if you've got the Bitters on your coupon
            The times they are a changin'.

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              Originally posted by The_weatherman View Post
              Wenger is complaining that both goals were offside, I think Suarez's leg was a bit off in the first goal, but in the second one I think was on right?
              He was off for the 1st phase but on for the second phase where he was passed to and tapped in.

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                Enrique look fantastic.great result well done kenny and the boys.
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                  Originally posted by Daniel 7 View Post
                  Carroll isn't good enough. He has no anticipation, he has no dynamism. Apparently he was supposed to be a big, bustling British CF, old school. He seemed to spend most of his time moaning or on his arse. His first touch his dreadful. Apart from Diouf, on what he's shown, he is the worst we have had up top in a long, long time.

                  I don't even think he has a Heskey type game in him. His pace seems non existent, his overall game play is lacking, he isn't making runs to make space for others and the way we look for him at every set piece is like something Bolton would do with Kevin Davies ( I would also argue he seems a more complete player). For £35m we have signed a rudimentary player with no finesse, touch or skill. He's a massive let down and a massive downgrade on anything we have had for years.
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                    Second goal was definetely onside.
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                      PS, is anyone else not getting any response from the official PL wesbite's live score centre? The games on now are all appearing as if they haven't kicked off yet with no scores etc.
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                        Originally posted by NigelLG View Post
                        That's a bit unfair though. I think he'll improve and do well in time, but he's got to learn quick. We need a new striker and one maybe more mobile. As long as he gives us options, it'll be good but we shouldn't rely on Carroll to win us games.
                        Set pieces though....

                        Every time the only tactic was to hit it high for his head. hit a corner long and deep for Carroll's head. He hasn't even (apart from one header in the first half) shown that he is that great in the air when he has played for us! He offers nothing. Championship player who looks out of his depth.

                        Crouch is ten times the player he is.

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                          Originally posted by NigelLG View Post
                          It's because his movement isn't very good, he needs to do better. I don't think he's good enough to be in the starting XI at this point in time. He's a massive presence and scares defenders though, but even his heading of the ball isn't good enough for someone like him, due to his poor positioning.
                          I think has potential, but right now he doesn't offer enough to add to either attacking or defending.
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                            Originally posted by NigelLG View Post
                            It's because his movement isn't very good, he needs to do better. I don't think he's good enough to be in the starting XI at this point in time. He's a massive presence and scares defenders though, but even his heading of the ball isn't good enough for someone like him, due to his poor positioning.
                            Couldn't agree more.

                            We spent tons of money trying to bring players to get the best out of him but we cannot blame them today for his lack of productivity.

                            Enrique, Downing and Adam try to set him up more than few times and he was no where to be found as he is positionally weak.

                            Except one header he was none factor today. Needs to up his game quickly as he can be such a weapon if he improves in that area.
                            Last edited by Mostar; 20-08-11, 03:45 PM.
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                              Just got home and though the result was great we were still shaky.

                              Carroll needs to fight for his place so a 'good' striker is needed ASAP.
                              The midfield did better today and won a lot of challenges well - as did the backs.

                              I know the wet did not help but I have to wonder whether them losing a man was necessary for the result.

                              Time will tell - but **** it, got a result..!
                              Last edited by Icon; 20-08-11, 03:49 PM.

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                                Originally posted by DeanoUK View Post
                                Got to agree with Mostar, and disagree with RedReets discussion of our 'negative' match thread.

                                The reason it was negative was that, largely, until the subs came on, we had a pretty crap game.

                                You know, it's ok to be critical, even if we're fans. Otherwise they'd be little discussion on here!
                                Not many teams will go the the Emirates and have more posession than the home team. What were you expecting, 5 up by half time?

                                I said before the match that our game plan should be to contain Arsenal for 60 minutes, then bring Suarez on and go for the win. We did that much better than I expected and got a deserved result.

                                Again, I hate to keep going on about it, but their 3 forwards barely had a kick all game and our players deserve full credit for this.

                                Originally posted by DeanoUK View Post
                                Sorry mate, I gotta disagree with this too. We certainly controlled more in the second half, and very much so in the last quater, but we were mostly spectators in the first half.

                                Again, we had more posession in the first half and the only two decent shots on target. Henderson should have did better for his. The only thing of note I can remember from Arsenal in the first half is the shot from Nasri.

                                Arsenal were the home team, but you'd never have known from watching that match.
                                If we are all only happy when we are really winning in the end, when your race finishes, what life would that be?

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