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    all our players should wear tshirts with the words 'fa corrupt since 1993'. what would the fa do? ban us? ****ing jokers.
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      Just seen this 8 matches WTF!!
      The only gracious way to accept an insult is to ignore it; if you can't ignore it, top it; if you can't top it, laugh at it; if you can't laugh at it, it's probably deserved.

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        I'm furious about it, absolutely furious.
        The times they are a changin'.

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          A disgrace but expected from the FA.
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          Curtis Julian Jones Fanclub #1

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            Shocked. F***** FA ****e!! Absolutely disgraceful decision.

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              Originally posted by rcasemore View Post
              Does anyone think he is a racist? For me its time to give up football
              For the Mancs........the proof is there in that ruling tonight.

              In fact, they expect Glen Johnson etc to refuse to play with him etc etc etc
              "I will make the boys feel your support"
              Jurgen Klopp June 2020

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                I don't see JH taking this lying down.
                I have one word to offer - honesty. I couldn't be devious if I tried. Joe Fagan.

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                  This is what they have found him guilty of:
                  1) Mr Suarez used insulting words towards Mr Evra during the match contrary to FA Rule E3(1);
                  2) the insulting words used by Mr Suarez included a reference to Mr Evra's colour within the meaning of Rule E3(2);
                  http://www.thefa.com/TheFA/Disciplin...uarez-20-12-11

                  & here's Rule E3 (1): A Participant shall at all times act in the best interests of the game and shall not
                  act in any manner which is improper or brings the game into disrepute or use any
                  one, or a combination of, violent conduct.
                  & E3 (2): In the event of any breach of Rule E 3(1) including a reference to any one or more
                  of a person’s ethnic origin, colour, race, nationality, faith, gender, sexual orientation
                  or disability (an “aggravating factor”), a Regulatory Commission shall consider
                  the imposition of an increased sanction, taking into account the following entry
                  points:
                  For a fi rst of ence, a sanction that is double that which the Regulatory Commission
                  would have applied had the aggravating factor not been present.
                  For a second of ence, a sanction that is treble that which the Regulatory
                  Commission would have applied had the aggravating factor not been present.
                  Any further such of ence(s) shall give rise to consideration of a permanent
                  suspension.
                  These entry points are intended to guide the Regulatory Commission and are not
                  mandatory.
                  The Regulatory Commission shall have the discretion to impose a sanction greater
                  or less than the entry point, according to the aggravating or mitigating factors
                  present in each case.
                  http://www.thefa.com/TheFA/~/media/F...tion201112.pdf

                  So in essence, he's got a 4 game ban for insulting Evra, & another 4 for referencing his colour / nationality.

                  If it's true about Evra saying using "South American" in a derogatory way, he can get the same ban if Suarez complains.

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                    From the club:

                    Liverpool Football Club is very surprised and disappointed with the decision of the Football Association Commission to find Luis Suarez guilty of the charges against him.

                    We look forward to the publication of the Commission's Judgment. We will study the detailed reasons of the Commission once they become available, but reserve our right to appeal or take any other course of action we feel appropriate with regards to this situation.

                    We find it extraordinary that Luis can be found guilty on the word of Patrice Evra alone when no-one else on the field of play - including Evra's own Manchester United teammates and all the match officials - heard the alleged conversation between the two players in a crowded Kop goalmouth while a corner kick was about to be taken.

                    The Club takes extremely seriously the fight against all forms of discrimination and has a long and successful track record in work relating to anti-racist activity and social inclusion. We remain committed to this ideal and equality for all, irrespective of a person's background.

                    LFC considers racism in any form to be unacceptable - without compromise. It is our strong held belief, having gone over the facts of the case, that Luis Suarez did not commit any racist act. It is also our opinion that the accusation by this particular player was not credible - certainly no more credible than his prior unfounded accusations.

                    It is key to note that Patrice Evra himself in his written statement in this case said 'I don't think that Luis Suarez is racist'. The FA in their opening remarks accepted that Luis Suarez was not racist.

                    Luis himself is of a mixed race family background as his grandfather was black. He has been personally involved since the 2010 World Cup in a charitable project which uses sport to encourage solidarity amongst people of different backgrounds with the central theme that the colour of a person's skin does not matter; they can all play together as a team.

                    He has played with black players and mixed with their families whilst with the Uruguay national side and was Captain at Ajax Amsterdam of a team with a proud multi-cultural profile, many of whom became good friends.

                    It seems incredible to us that a player of mixed heritage should be accused and found guilty in the way he has based on the evidence presented. We do not recognise the way in which Luis Suarez has been characterised.

                    It appears to us that the FA were determined to bring charges against Luis Suarez, even before interviewing him at the beginning of November. Nothing we have heard in the course of the hearing has changed our view that Luis Suarez is innocent of the charges brought against him and we will provide Luis with whatever support he now needs to clear his name.

                    We would also like to know when the FA intend to charge Patrice Evra with making abusive remarks to an opponent after he admitted himself in his evidence to insulting Luis Suarez in Spanish in the most objectionable of terms. Luis, to his credit, actually told the FA he had not heard the insult.
                    Hello mert.

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                      Originally posted by McDermotX View Post
                      For the Mancs........the proof is there in that ruling tonight.

                      In fact, they expect Glen Johnson etc to refuse to play with him etc etc etc
                      It's up to people like Glen to stand up and say their bit. Tell us all how racist he finds Suarez.
                      I have one word to offer - honesty. I couldn't be devious if I tried. Joe Fagan.

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                        Liverpool Football Club is very surprised and disappointed with the decision of the Football Association Commission to find Luis Suarez guilty of the charges against him.

                        We look forward to the publication of the Commission's Judgment. We will study the detailed reasons of the Commission once they become available, but reserve our right to appeal or take any other course of action we feel appropriate with regards to this situation.

                        We find it extraordinary that Luis can be found guilty on the word of Patrice Evra alone when no-one else on the field of play - including Evra's own Manchester United teammates and all the match officials - heard the alleged conversation between the two players in a crowded Kop goalmouth while a corner kick was about to be taken.

                        The Club takes extremely seriously the fight against all forms of discrimination and has a long and successful track record in work relating to anti-racist activity and social inclusion. We remain committed to this ideal and equality for all, irrespective of a person's background.

                        LFC considers racism in any form to be unacceptable - without compromise. It is our strong held belief, having gone over the facts of the case, that Luis Suarez did not commit any racist act. It is also our opinion that the accusation by this particular player was not credible - certainly no more credible than his prior unfounded accusations.

                        It is key to note that Patrice Evra himself in his written statement in this case said 'I don't think that Luis Suarez is racist'. The FA in their opening remarks accepted that Luis Suarez was not racist.

                        Luis himself is of a mixed race family background as his grandfather was black. He has been personally involved since the 2010 World Cup in a charitable project which uses sport to encourage solidarity amongst people of different backgrounds with the central theme that the colour of a person's skin does not matter; they can all play together as a team.

                        He has played with black players and mixed with their families whilst with the Uruguay national side and was Captain at Ajax Amsterdam of a team with a proud multi-cultural profile, many of whom became good friends.

                        It seems incredible to us that a player of mixed heritage should be accused and found guilty in the way he has based on the evidence presented. We do not recognise the way in which Luis Suarez has been characterised.

                        It appears to us that the FA were determined to bring charges against Luis Suarez, even before interviewing him at the beginning of November. Nothing we have heard in the course of the hearing has changed our view that Luis Suarez is innocent of the charges brought against him and we will provide Luis with whatever support he now needs to clear his name.

                        We would also like to know when the FA intend to charge Patrice Evra with making abusive remarks to an opponent after he admitted himself in his evidence to insulting Luis Suarez in Spanish in the most objectionable of terms. Luis, to his credit, actually told the FA he had not heard the insult.

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                          United really will do just about anything to get #20. I will laugh so hard if they fail to win anything this season.

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                            good statement from lfc

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                              We would also like to know when the FA intend to charge Patrice Evra with making abusive remarks to an opponent after he admitted himself in his evidence to insulting Luis Suarez in Spanish in the most objectionable of terms. Luis, to his credit, actually told the FA he had not heard the insult.
                              Made me smile this though
                              "I will make the boys feel your support"
                              Jurgen Klopp June 2020

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                                Very strong statement from the club. We'll clearly not take this lying down.

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