Evra accuses Suarez of racism

[little dave hedgehog]

darkon, they didn't have to take anyone's word for it. he told them what he said. the ruling was on the word itself. very conveniently, it means they get to throw the book at him.

[Roboklopp]

Also meant to say, just as LFC are looking to link up with Uruguay& their promising players, they will see how their star has been crucified by the press, FA & public here & be completely put off.

[Exiled_red]

This is going to turn into an almighty **** storm.

For example, based on Luther Blisset's point of view Luis is going to be lucky not to get hung for this. This is all being handled so badly, I really feel for Suarez during all this... There is a distinct lack of understanding of his culture.



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There's no way that the evidence presented to the FA would stand up in a court of law.

[The_weatherman]

Anyone else thinking the timing of this is ideal for Scum? Just as we are finally in a position to re-establish ourselves in the European Cup, we lose our best player for 1/4 of the season & make him question his long term future in England. Just as we once again have a decent manager, the rebuilding process is undermined.

Ferguson knew the club & Kenny would stand by an innocent player, but the club's name will be dragged through the mud just as we have a decent owner & are looking fit stadium sponsorship to take us back to the big league financially- something Ferguson has not had to compete with for 20 years in us. This could have implications for years for the club as well as Luis.

I think we can use this to our advantage on the field, Kenny will use this to create a siege mentality and motivate the hell out of the players, I want us to appeal and take this as far as we can and let's start by destroying Wigan, and I mean destroying them We'll have Gerrard back and Luis can take a nice vacation while suspended. So friggin' angry though

[The_weatherman]

Also meant to say, just as LFC are looking to link up with Uruguay& their promising players, they will see how their star has been crucified by the press, FA & public here & be completely put off.

Or how the club and it's fans stands by the player who is being unrightfully crucified. I wonder how other latino players view this case and the allegations from United.

[little dave hedgehog]

There's no way that the evidence presented to the FA would stand up in a court of law.

i'm certain that it would given that it was an admission. it's the interpretation that's wrong.

[rudedog]

i'm certain that it would given that it was an admission. it's the interpretation that's wrong.

It depends what exactly he admitted to though - no facts have yet been presented regarding this case so we'll have to wait and see.

[Exiled_red]

i don't think they needed any evidence. he admitted to saying something, and we all know what that word is and have done for weeks. seems like they have basically ruled that negrito is an abusive term, end of story, and if that's true then i can't imagine any appeal would lose apart from the obvious incompetency/stitch up thing. if any reasonably responsible party hears the appeal, then they must overturn the ban. even a suspended sentence and a warning to all the players in the league as to whether negrito will be considered abusive in the future would be a good result for everybody i think.

If the FA are going to take such a stance I think that they should have some courses for overseas players explaining the cultural differences, in terms of what is acceptable and what isn't acceptable behaviour. Oh course this won't happen because it seems the FA don't accept there are cultural differences

[Darkon]

darkon, they didn't have to take anyone's word for it. he told them what he said. the ruling was on the word itself. very conveniently, it means they get to throw the book at him.

I know, and what I was trying to say, but didn't manage is how they can take Evra's words on it that it was meant negative and just ignore Suarez and all of Uruguay saying it's not meant that way there.

He said it no doubt, I just find it utterly mindbaffeling that they take 1 mans word over another in a "court"

[The_weatherman]

i'm certain that it would given that it was an admission. it's the interpretation that's wrong.

Exactly what is it that he is getting an eight match ban for though? Porqu, negro, or calling him negrito?

[Exiled_red]

i'm certain that it would given that it was an admission. it's the interpretation that's wrong.

Sorry I meant that I don't think a court of law would return a guilty verdict.

[truefan999]

I cannot even begin to express the anger that I feel.

I loved the fact that the club statement did not hold back. They clearly stated the FA were biased from the outset. The evidence is flimsy at best.

On appeal the ban will get reduced to 4 games but the charge will stand.

We now need to make formal complaints re Evra and his comment, and complain re the behaviour of Ferguson.

It's quite clear Ferguson and his club hold way too much influence over the FA

[little dave hedgehog]

Exactly what is it that he is getting an eight match ban for though? Porqu, negro, or calling him negrito?

the negro/negrito thing. i'm sure the united negro college fund might have something to say about it.

there's no question he said what he said. the hearing hinged on whether or not those words were offensive. might've been easier if he hadn't come right out and told everyone he had called him something, but as it is there's still plenty of room for appeal. we might still lose it, but it's not over yet and i think suarez has a case. will be interesting to see whether they charge evra given that he also admitted to "abusive" words in the other direction in his testimony. they were no better and no worse than what suarez said.

allegedly.

[Reece]

If Suarez is proved innocent we should do the Mirror to the full extent of the law, that is Slander 100% I expect a full apology at the least.

Bearing in mind the FA's statement said that Suarez wasn't a racist, isn't is slander regardless of any appeal?

[The_weatherman]

Bearing in mind the FA's statement said that Suarez wasn't a racist, isn't is slander regardless of any appeal?

Well what is it then, negrito is abusive but not racist? What about telling someone to **** off? Is that a yellow or even a red card now then?