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If one of my senior Sports writers had said what he did, i'd be looking to replace him quick sharp.Originally posted by TheElephantMan View PostThat Ollie Holt is a thick ****er - I was going to unfollow him, but I'm glad I didn't now. How can the Mirror accuse anyone of racism when its journalists don't have the faintest clue what racism is?! I know it's all become a bit confusing lately, but really - this bloke is far too stupid to write for a living.
Won't happen obviously, they won't even send him on a racism awareness course!
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empireofthekop Empire of the KopOriginally posted by Shaggy View PostPrick
DiscoMirror David McDonnell
Fergie dig at #LFC over Suarez/Evra peace talks plan. "It's nice to do it through the press. You'd have thought they'd come to us."
Fergie "I don't see why there is any need for that [peace talks] to be honest."
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An email thats been created by someone on on twitter. Gonna send off now, cant do any harm...
Email this to [email protected]
Dear sirs,
I wish to formally complain to the FA about the behaviour of Manchester United player Patrice Evra towards Liverpool player Luis Suarez during the Premier League match at Anfield last October for using abusive, indecent or insulting words or behaviour.
This complaint is based on the evidence provided by Mr. Evra himself subsequently.
Rule E3(1) is:
Rule E3, with the sub-heading "General Behaviour", provides as follows:
"(1) A Participant shall at all times act in the best interests of the game and shall not act in any manner which is improper or brings the game into disrepute or use any one, or a combination of, violent conduct, serious foul play, threatening, abusive, indecent or insulting words or behaviour."
On page 26/27 the suarez document, the very first occurence of run in between the two players occured:
"Mr Evra and Mr Suarez are agreed that they spoke to each other in Spanish in thegoalmouth. Mr Evra said that he is not exactly fluent in Spanish but that he can easily converse in Spanish. For Mr Suarez, Spanish is his native language as a Uruguayan. Mr Evra told us that he began the conversation by saying "Concha de tu hermana". Mr Evra's evidence was that this is a phrase used in Spanish like when you say "f*****g hell" in English, but the literal translation is "your sister's pussy". Mr Suarez did not hear Mr Evra say this. One of the video clips that we have seen, taken from a close up angle behind the goal, does appear to support Mr Evra's evidence that he started the conversation with this comment."
I would like to receive the following from the FA in relation to this highly publicised incident;
a.) An explanation as to why Mr. Evra has not been charged when admitting the offence in question when giving his version of events during the recent inquiry.
(Maybe you believe that stating "Your sister's pussy" to a fellow professional to be not offensive and was spoken by Mr. Evra in a conciliatory manner.
I doubt you'd buy that as a defence though given the fact that he said this in a heated discussion with Mr. Suarez during a Liverpool v Man United match.
Or maybe this remark has been deemed to be inoffensive in Spanish although I imagine this could not be regarded as a legitimate defence either as you have deemed the word "negro" to be offensive in any language or context.)
You have found Mr. Suarez guilty of the aforementioned offence despite the fact he has stated that he is not guilty and there is no corroborating evidence against him despite the word of your "credible" witness, however you have failed to even charge Mr. Evra with the offence even though he has admitted such a breach of the rules through his testimony.
b.) Details of what action will now be taken against Mr. Evra for his self-confessed breach of the rules and how this matter can be adequately progressed so that this type of unsavoury behaviour can be stamped out of the game for good.
By the way, I'd just like it noted that I am not rushing to judgement here based on probability or hearsay but rather on the testimony of someone the FA have already officially deemed to be a credible witness.
Looking forward to seeing justice being done according to your own rules.
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Lets see if he's still of the same opinion when he's begging for our supporters to behave as it's the game after the Munich anniversary. Horrible old cunt.Originally posted by Vermilion View Postempireofthekop Empire of the Kop
Fergie "I don't see why there is any need for that [peace talks] to be honest."Last edited by Chris; 06-01-12, 12:09 PM.
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StuartMaconie Stuart Maconie
Well done @bbcwomanshour for addressing hypocrisy over the Suarez/Evra spat. Footie media very quiet over the rank sexism involved.
StuartMaconie Stuart Maconie
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@SteveFranklin3 yes but Suarez's racist remarks (rightly) punished whilst Evra's remarks about S's sister blithely ignored
Every little helps.I have one word to offer - honesty. I couldn't be devious if I tried. Joe Fagan.
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I like it when it's presented by Jane Garvey.Originally posted by fah-q View PostGood old Womans Hour.
Jenni Murray - not so much..
Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.
May the Lord bless this post.
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Yep, while retaliation isn't always an excuse for certain behaviour, if someones said something wrong, it shouldn't matter whether he said it first or as retaliation.
Suarez's defence could easily have been that he was enticed into this exchange by Evras very insulting language towards his family.
The fact that the FA ignore Evras comment while throwing the book at Suarez just highlights the unjust way this whole thing has been handled.
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More ****in hot air, brand being harmed my arse! 'Anything' they say will be used against them, so they are doing the correct thing and keeping their counsel, it's ****in obvious what they think, and it's obvious what they think of the fa's 'evidence, hence our stance!Originally posted by kev776 View Post
Those kick it out fools should be ashamed of themsleves for the racial hate they could be encouraging, with such outspoken views based on so little evidence, and on what has been a blatantly one sided investigation.Last edited by Vermilion; 06-01-12, 12:36 PM.
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Originally posted by wavydavy View PostWas it Busquets whose image was flashed around the world calling Marcelo a monkey and generating universal horror in the process? Whatever became of poor old Barcelona after that? You don't hear of them much.
The evidence is so flawed, they now try the scare tactics, shameful behaviour..
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