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    That Ollie Holt is a thick ****er - I was going to unfollow him, but I'm glad I didn't now. How can the Mirror accuse anyone of racism when its journalists don't have the faintest clue what racism is?! I know it's all become a bit confusing lately, but really - this bloke is far too stupid to write for a living.

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      Somebody's been fast on the draw with his Wikipedia page


      In 2011/2012, he was an avid criticiser of Liverpool F.C.'s striker Luis Suarez, after he was alleged of racially abusing Manchester United defender Patrice Evra.[2] However, less than a week later, he hypocritically suggested himself that the term 'black c***' was not a racist one[3], bringing his credibility as a journalist into question.

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        But in fairness he didnt say that, did he?
        "With Ron Yeats in defence, we could play Arthur Askey in goal."

        Bill Shankly

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          Originally posted by Jack D Rips View Post
          But in fairness he didnt say that, did he?
          He said he didn't know whether it was racist to call someone a black c*nt, I think he's trying to play devil's advocate and it's backfiring on him. Stupid trick anyway, sick of these stupid ****ing journalists.

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            He wrote this on 14th November

            OllieHoltMirrorOliver Holt

            Is calling someone a 'black c....' racist? Spoke to a black player today who said racism is words like 'c..n', n-word, 'w..' etc. Don't know


            He wrote this today

            This is what he said:

            OllieHoltMirrorOliver Holt

            Hard for me to say cos have never been a victim but I know some black players who feel that use of 'black ........' is not offensive.
            "With Ron Yeats in defence, we could play Arthur Askey in goal."

            Bill Shankly

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              daily mail site has video of evra calling jimmy floyd hasselbank a ******.

              ni****

              dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2082524/Patrice-Evra-video-using-n-word-YoutTube.html

              another one...

              football-talk.co.uk/54813/video-patrice-evra-caught-on-tape-using-n-word-in-foul-mouthed-chelsea-rant/?
              Last edited by el matador; 05-01-12, 11:22 PM.
              [B]Sir Isaac Newton knew the universal law of karma - any action has its equal and opposite reaction.[B]

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                Originally posted by Jack D Rips View Post
                He wrote this on 14th November

                OllieHoltMirrorOliver Holt

                Is calling someone a 'black c....' racist? Spoke to a black player today who said racism is words like 'c..n', n-word, 'w..' etc. Don't know


                He wrote this today

                This is what he said:

                OllieHoltMirrorOliver Holt

                Hard for me to say cos have never been a victim but I know some black players who feel that use of 'black ........' is not offensive.
                He’s a duplicitous cunt. He can brand club chairmen as racists for not hiring black managers when he’s banging on about introducing the “Rooney Rule” to the Premiership, yet couldn’t say outright that calling someone a black cunt was racist, hence his “Don’t know” at the end of the original tweet. Playing devil’s advocate is not the behaviour of ardent anti-racist campaigners.

                He doesn't even bother to give an opinion of those black players that he says don't find being called a black cunt offensive, or how it impacts the fight against racism. Surely any half-decent journalist with his self-proclaimed anti-racist stance would want to explore this, and he has an excellent platform to do so.

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                  Originally posted by BubbaZanetti View Post
                  Apologies if already posted but... My friend's dad is a director @ League 2 club & he's just told me that Piara Power has been voted/accepted (however those mason-esque c_nts work) onto the FA, in what capacity I don't yet know....
                  Surprise Sur****ingprise this stitch up is reaching Epic proportions
                  Anybody who criticizes Klopp ever is a James Blunt. Nov 2015
                  #****CITY

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                    Liverpool officials are to request top-level talks with their Manchester United counterparts, in an attempt to defuse tensions before the two clubs meet at Old Trafford on 11 February. That match is likely to be Luis Suárez's first away from Anfield after his eight-match ban for racially abusing the United defender Patrice Evra.

                    Kenny Dalglish has no reservations about picking Suárez to start against United, despite his concern over the treatment the Uruguay international may receive from opposition supporters once his suspension has been served. Beyond matters on the pitch, however, there is a realisation at Anfield that the potential for trouble will be greater than usual when the north-west rivals meet, given the fallout from the Suárez affair and therefore a need to respond.

                    Relations between the clubs, like those between Liverpool and the Football Association, have suffered badly since the 1-1 draw at Anfield on 15 October. Liverpool's staunch defence of a player who has admitted using the Spanish word negro once during his row with Evra, but was found guilty of using it or negros seven times by an independent regulatory commission, has been viewed by many as the root cause. Liverpool have cast doubt on Evra's integrity and are adamant that Suárez has been punished for a cultural misunderstanding and his honesty in admitting to using the word when first presented with Evra's accusation, immediately after the match in October.

                    Nevertheless, and having accepted Suárez's ban, Liverpool accept a responsibility to reduce potential flashpoints at Old Trafford next month and intend to contact United on the issue. Liverpool officials are exploring what actions can be taken before the game and there has been no approach to United yet. Talks may even take place at ownership level, where Liverpool's principal owner, John W Henry, and chairman, Tom Werner, have been closely involved in the club's stance throughout the affair. The Premier League is prepared to mediate, if called upon. United are open to the prospect of working with Liverpool and will assess any proposals that are made.

                    Liverpool will also use Suárez's suspension period to discuss with the FA not only the procedures that led to the striker's eight-match ban, which the Anfield club believe to be deeply flawed, but measures that can be taken to aid the 24-year-old's return to the game. The independent regulatory commission and Evra both accepted that Suarez is not a racist and Liverpool believe sanctions should be brought against clubs whose supporters brand him as such.

                    Their priority with the FA, however, the integrity of which Liverpool have also questioned, is to instigate changes to a system that currently sees the commission members appointed by the FA and given the power to find a player guilty of racist abuse on the balance of probability.

                    Liverpool's handling of the entire episode has continued to attract fierce criticism and Piara Powar, the executive director of European football's anti-discrimination body, Fare, believes the FA should charge the club with bringing the game into disrepute. He said Dalglish had been "undignified" in his vehement support of Suárez and that Liverpool's reaction had damaged their image across the world.

                    "This is a lack of respect for the governing body by Liverpool and the FA should charge Liverpool FC and Kenny Dalglish," Powar said. "I think the FA should come back now and be very clear that Liverpool could be construed to have brought the game into disrepute by the way in which they have consistently undermined the judgment and by Kenny Dalglish's comments. Liverpool have been too keen to support their man and in doing so have whipped up a sense of paranoia amongst their fans. This is not the Liverpool FC that we have applauded in the past for their support for a whole range of issues. The responses from Kenny Dalglish have been undignified; the way in which they have dealt with the whole matter has been unprofessional. For the club to so aggressively militate against what looks to most people a considered judgment from the FA leads to a potential for anarchy."

                    The FA is not expected to charge Liverpool but Powar said the club had suffered for its hardline stance on Suárez. He added: "They have damaged their brand, no question. There is no question that Liverpool do have a global appeal, but I have emails from colleagues in Africa asking me what the hell is going on. I think people will be watching this and I believe there is no question that their plans for global expansion will have been damaged by this. That's not to say they cannot come back from this but it has done them a lot of damage and they have not conducted themselves in a very palatable way."

                    Dalglish, who with Manchester City is interested in Birmingham City's 17-year-old midfielder Nathan Redmond, said Friday's FA Cup third-round tie at home to Oldham Athletic offers welcome respite after a troubled week for the club. The Liverpool manager said: "To get back on the pitch after the week we've had on and off it is the best thing we can do. It'll be a great time too for our people to show support for one another – for the players to show their gratitude towards the fans for the support they've given us recently, and also vice versa."

                    Andy Hunter
                    Thanks very much for being ‘This Mornings’ Farmer’

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                      Why do images of a little puppy trotting over to its master with its tail between its legs suddenly spring to mind?

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                        They don't.
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                        Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.



                        May the Lord bless this post.

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                          I honestly feel that there will be serious trouble at that game, it seems inevitable. I have always hated Man United, but I hate them more than ever now.

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                            Totally agree, it'll be carnage. Not going there this year, **** that.
                            Thanks very much for being ‘This Mornings’ Farmer’

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                              Originally posted by Shaggy View Post
                              Totally agree, it'll be carnage. Not going there this year, **** that.
                              If you've got a ticket I'll buy it.

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                                Originally posted by Shaggy View Post
                                Totally agree, it'll be carnage. Not going there this year, **** that.
                                I'm wondering whether it's worth giving it a miss too.

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