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    Originally posted by Shaggy View Post
    "Suarez is a racist" scarves being sold outside Piccadilly and therefore presumably outside OT.
    The only gracious way to accept an insult is to ignore it; if you can't ignore it, top it; if you can't top it, laugh at it; if you can't laugh at it, it's probably deserved.

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      Originally posted by Red_Polo View Post
      You'd think whoever's responsible for making the scarves could find themselves in some hot water legally, if there was enough of a desire on anyone's part for that to happen.


      I doubt anything will happen to them, but it will be interesting to see what happens to people wearing them, would they be kicked out of the ground?
      The only gracious way to accept an insult is to ignore it; if you can't ignore it, top it; if you can't top it, laugh at it; if you can't laugh at it, it's probably deserved.

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        Originally posted by Exiled_red View Post


        I doubt anything will happen to them, but it will be interesting to see what happens to people wearing them, would they be kicked out of the ground?
        They should be kicked out and handed over the police

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          Originally posted by Assassin View Post
          They should be kicked out and handed over the police
          Hopefully. I could imagine it could happen at Anfield, but I doubt it would happen at any other ground especially Old Trafford.
          The only gracious way to accept an insult is to ignore it; if you can't ignore it, top it; if you can't top it, laugh at it; if you can't laugh at it, it's probably deserved.

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            Originally posted by The_weatherman View Post
            Definately, considering that the FA's report explicity stated that Suarez was indeed not racist.
            Absolutely

            Originally posted by Mostar View Post
            There is no audio evidence of what conversation was between those 2 and what was actually said so he could have stated to FA that he said whatever to Evra.

            They couldn't find Evra's story more believable in that case as their statements would have been polar opposite but the fact that he admitted that he used word "Negro" which is what Evra also indicated in his statement was the main and the only reason why FA sided with the cunt.

            I don't support lying or omitting the truth as the correct course of action but the fact remains that being honest will not always set you free especially when you deal with incompetent and corrupt institution as FA.
            I'm aware of all that, but as I say it's really not clear what difference it would have made. From a logical pov keeping in line with the report it should have made no difference to their verdict. They believed Evra and not Suarez. That would not have changed. To say otherwise we are assuming there was more to their reasoning for their judgement than is contained within the report.

            A fair assumption IMO. However, estimating their actual undocumented reasoning, removing that single admission from Suarez could have had any number of possible impacts on the outcome. Your scenario is one possibility, but they could equally have found exactly the same, or felt his account was all the more implausible and punished him more severely. It's possible that when he admitted saying it once they felt he was a dirty ****ing racist so must have done everything else Evra said. My point is, for all their flaws, I cannot believe it is clear that was their motivation.

            Perhaps more importantly, I think it is wrong to talk about how honesty is 'not always the best policy' with the benefit of hindsight, when at the time it was very clearly the right thing to do and not just out of altruism. Comments like that don't offer any real insight and merely encourage people to evaluate situations from the point of view of looking for dishonest ways of achieving a desirable outcome.

            Anyway, match time
            Last edited by Red_Polo; 14-01-12, 04:09 PM.
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              Sadly the whole Suarez and liverpool racist thing wont even start to calm down until suarez goes to another club. We're pretty much stuck with it. Especially the new suarez chant.

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                Had dinner with a Mexican friend las night and I told him out this and he was bemused, he said in Latin America black people are just called black people, nehgro is Spanish for black like mana is I think Spanish for white ... I hope there is a commons enquiry and we can all have the last laugh on these fukcers ... Either way people in South America know the truth
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                  danroan Dan Roan
                  I understand the CPS have hired barrister Duncan Penny to lead their prosecution of John Terry for alleged racist abuse of Anton Ferdinand
                  danroan Dan Roan
                  ...Penny is from 6 King's Bench Walk - the chambers that provided prosecution for Pakistani cricketers & Lawrence murder trial
                  Thanks very much for being ‘This Mornings’ Farmer’

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                    The Fa's silence over the Terry affair is astounding.
                    Are we winning?

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                      It isn't ...the FA and media are supposedly gagged until the trial is over.
                      Thanks very much for being ‘This Mornings’ Farmer’

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                        Originally posted by MrNice View Post
                        Had dinner with a Mexican friend las night and I told him out this and he was bemused, he said in Latin America black people are just called black people, nehgro is Spanish for black like mana is I think Spanish for white ... I hope there is a commons enquiry and we can all have the last laugh on these fukcers ... Either way people in South America know the truth
                        White in Spanish is "blanco"

                        "Maná" incidentally is a hugely famous, (all white) Mexican rock band:



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                          Originally posted by Shaggy View Post
                          It isn't ...the FA and media are supposedly gagged until the trial is over.
                          As far as I know there is no restriction on phrases such as 'John Terry facing a criminal trial for racially aggraivated breach of the peace' being used at every possible opportunity. THey just cant talk about the actual event
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                            This will not be over until Luis is forced out of the club by the scumbag media. It has died down due to his ban but as soon as he starts playing again every cockroach will come out of the woodwork and SSN will be licking their lips as they taste blood. Real will come in with a bid of about £15m and bacon face will sit back with a big smile on his face saying "Mission accomplished"

                            Makes me ****ing sick!

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                              Originally posted by Leyton388 View Post
                              This will not be over until Luis is forced out of the club by the scumbag media. It has died down due to his ban but as soon as he starts playing again every cockroach will come out of the woodwork and SSN will be licking their lips as they taste blood. Real will come in with a bid of about £15m and bacon face will sit back with a big smile on his face saying "Mission accomplished"

                              Makes me ****ing sick!

                              With all due respect,what a load of nonsense.Why would we even need to sell him? As long as he comes back and does his talkng on the pitch,it will all be boring for people after a while to start with and second why for that amount?
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                                Originally posted by kop-al-74 View Post
                                With all due respect,what a load of nonsense.Why would we even need to sell him? As long as he comes back and does his talkng on the pitch,it will all be boring for people after a while to start with and second why for that amount?
                                Beleive me mate i hope your right and i am so far off its a joke but if real get their claws into him and if the situation gets out of control i can see them trying their luck and turning his head then putting in a low bid knowing what the situation is. I like everyone at the moment are just feeling a bit pessimistic. A trip to Wembley in feb should change that though

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