The Race for Champions League Places

[little dave hedgehog]

no, can't not not unsee us finishing 4th either.

[ChesterDave]

If we beat Chelsea, Newcastle and Arsenal then that is a massive boost to get 4th because its all points our nearest challengers can get.

CL v Winning cups - well CL has to be the priority. Sooner we get back in the CL the sooner we can stop relying on others to stop Utd winning the league and start challenging ourself.

Its quite sad that we have had to rely on others doing that for so long. The extra benefit is for ever time we qualify it means someone like Arsenal or Chelsea wont qualify and that will hurt them with FFP.

[topscorer]

I hear what you're saying but come on, deep down, does anyone here think for a moment that we wont beat Cardiff? Be honest now.

I admire your courage and optimism but I will never ever ever again assume that we are going to win something after the 2 painful experiences of the Wimbledon FA cup final and losing the league in the last seconds of the last game against Arsenal.

I remember those 2 lows as clearly as I remember the the highs of the Istanbul final and beating Borussia Mönchengladbach in Rome.

We haven't won anything yet, the players still need to go out and put in a performance at Wembley.

As an aside, haven't Cardiff been to the new Wembley before for playoffs and we've never been before?

4th position Totals over the last 5 years

2011 - Arsenal - 68 pts
2010 - Spurs - 70 pts
2009 - Arsenal - 72 pts
2008 - Liverpool - 76 pts
2007 -Arsenal - 68 pts

Average points over last 5 years 70.8 pts minimum

We currently have 38 pts Need another 32/33 pts minimum from 15 Games. About 2.13/2.22 pts

So 10/11 Wins out of 15 Games

06.02.2012 Tottenham
11.02.2012 Man United
03.03.2012 Arsenal
10.03.2012 Sunderland
17.03.2012 QPR
24.03.2012 Wigan
01.04.2012 Newcastle
07.04.2012 Aston Villa
09.04.2012 Blackburn
14.04.2012 Fulham
21.04.2012 WBA
28.04.2012 Norwich
05.05.2012 Chelsea
13.05.2012 Swansea
Everton - To Be Re-arranged

8 Home Games Left - Where we've won 4 Drawn 7 Lost 0 so far
7 Away Games Left - Where we've won 6 Drawn 1 Lost 5 so far

Can't not see us getting 4th.

I don't know if we'll get 4th but I don't think we'll need 71 points to do it this year. I think 68 might be enough.

[ChesterDave]

If anyone fancies toying around with the BBC predictor to see how results in matches between the main protaganists affect everything then here is the link.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_prem/predictor/default.stm

Its not accessible on the new format pages but the link still works from history/google cache etc

[Baracus]

no, can't not not unsee us finishing 4th either.

I don't know if we'll get 4th but I don't think we'll need 71 points to do it this year. I think 68 might be enough.

So we will still need another 30 pts from 15 Games.

I Still think we need a ******* 15 game winning run

[topscorer]

So we will still need another 30 pts from 15 Games.

I Still think we need a ******* 15 game winning run

That would give us 45 points

I'll take that But no way would we get 4th with 45 points, we'd be higher up than that

[ChesterDave]

That would give us 45 points

I'll take that But no way would we get 4th with 45 points, we'd be higher up than that

On the assumption we win the next 15 I have managed to work out a scenario where we win the title, Wolves, West Brom and Bolton go down! MAKE IT HAPPEN

[topscorer]

On the assumption we win the next 15 I have managed to work out a scenario where we win the title, Wolves, West Brom and Bolton go down! MAKE IT HAPPEM

The domestic treble is on

[Baracus]

That would give us 45 points

I'll take that But no way would we get 4th with 45 points, we'd be higher up than that

We'd have 83 points. Its on We can still win the league.

[Baracus]

The domestic treble is on

Like Donkey Kong

[topscorer]

That's cheered up my evening

I'm going to open a bottle of wine before reality sets in

[Nicey]

4th position Totals over the last 5 years

2011 - Arsenal - 68 pts
2010 - Spurs - 70 pts
2009 - Arsenal - 72 pts
2008 - Liverpool - 76 pts
2007 -Arsenal - 68 pts

Average points over last 5 years 70.8 pts minimum

We currently have 38 pts Need another 32/33 pts minimum from 15 Games. About 2.13/2.22 pts

So 10/11 Wins out of 15 Games

06.02.2012 Tottenham
11.02.2012 Man United
03.03.2012 Arsenal
10.03.2012 Sunderland
17.03.2012 QPR
24.03.2012 Wigan
01.04.2012 Newcastle
07.04.2012 Aston Villa
09.04.2012 Blackburn
14.04.2012 Fulham
21.04.2012 WBA
28.04.2012 Norwich
05.05.2012 Chelsea
13.05.2012 Swansea
Everton - To Be Re-arranged

8 Home Games Left - Where we've won 4 Drawn 7 Lost 0 so far
7 Away Games Left - Where we've won 6 Drawn 1 Lost 5 so far

Cannot see us getting 4th.

I think we can win all of these games, obviously we wont but the only games which really worry me are,Spurs, Sunderland away and United but with United anything can happen, Spurs are just a scary team, we will need to be on point both tactically and individually. The rest are all mental because we are a better team than all of them and if we play to our potential and make our own luck, should beat them. Why not

[Fosterbloke]

I just ****ed about with the BBC Predictor and got this -

1. Man City 94pts
2. Man Utd 93pts
3. Liverpool 81pts
4. Tottenham 77pts
5. Chelsea 72pts
6. Arsenal 72pts
7. Newcastle 64pts

We beat everyone for a 2-2 home draw with Aston Villa.

[topscorer]

I don't think 2 teams have ever got over 90 points in the same season have they?

That would be quite incredible if that happened.

[Nicey]

I just ****ed about with the BBC Predictor and got this -

1. Man City 94pts
2. Man Utd 93pts
3. Liverpool 81pts
4. Tottenham 77pts
5. Chelsea 72pts
6. Arsenal 72pts
7. Newcastle 64pts

We beat everyone for a 2-2 home draw with Aston Villa.

Oh I love that thing ... let me get on it straight away compare tables