The Race for Champions League Places

[Craig_H]

Not at all.

Quite simple enough really, if you think Kenny's ****ing things up, then you wouldnt want a manager who's ****ing things up. If you dont want him gone, then he cant be doing that bad a job.

[Kenneth]

Not at all.

Quite simple enough really, if you think Kenny's ****ing things up, then you wouldnt want a manager who's ****ing things up. If you dont want him gone, then he cant be doing that bad a job.

Simple to the point of being childish.

[Craig_H]

So you think he's doing a **** job and ****ing things up, you dont think he's the right man for us - but you dont want him sacked...

O.....kay.

[Kenneth]

So you think he's doing a **** job and ****ing things up, you dont think he's the right man for us - but you dont want him sacked...

O.....kay.

Grow up Craig.

**** job are your words and probably only shared by Phil Neil here. If I wanted shut of anyone I was in any way critical of I'd have been divorsed a long time ago.

You've been pushing this weak line of argument for a day now and its getting increasingly silly.

[Craig_H]

So you think he's doing a good job then? Or an ok one? What?

Just from the whinging and moaning, it seems to me that some think Kenny's ****ing right up.

[Kenneth]

You clearly think there is zero room for improvement, because not to would involve some form of criticism, which would mean you want him sacked.

i've specified where I think he needs to improve. I've stated that I hope he does and needs more time to try. I have no idea what else you expect me to say, apart from sack Kenny obviously.

[Craig_H]

You clearly think there is zero room for improvement, because not to would involve some form of criticism, which would mean you want him sacked.

i've specified where I think he needs to improve. I've stated that I hope he does and needs more time to try. I have no idea what else you expect me to say, apart from sack Kenny obviously.

It's not mere 'criticism' though. It's incessant. After every single game we dont win, the same bollocks and whinging. Literally with every game - if we dont win, people post **** on here. So we must win every game or people will complain

**** me, we won a cup last week and immediately afterwards there were people moaning and complaining

It's absurd and emphatic enough from some quarters to imply that Kenny's doing an appallingly **** job. If yesterday's game had gone exactly the same way, but a couple of balls had bounced off the post with a slightly different angle, we'd have won and probably not heard much of a peep from the doom mongers. Yet tiny fine margins go against us, and it's doomsday.

Of course there's room for improvement - i've already said countless times that we need to finish chances and the lack of finishers is costing us - so how is that an example of me thinking there's no room for improvement?

If you think Kenny's not doing a **** job, then he must be doing something right. Yet all i read from some is the negatives, no hint of anything good. So if Kenny's not doing anything good, then call for his head. Otherwise add some balance to the whinging, acknowledge some of the good things he's doing and stop crying after every single dropped point.

[Mattshark]

That is because our league form is at present terrible and a serious cause for concern. Any manager winning 2 in 10 for us is going to be the recipient of criticism.

[Craig_H]

So all Kenny's doing is negative, he's not doing anything good, it's all **** and he should be sacked?

Or has he done some good things? Is he doing anything right? Because if he is, none of your lot seem to notice or post about it.

[Mattshark]

So all Kenny's doing is negative, he's not doing anything good, it's all **** and he should be sacked?

Or has he done some good things? Is he doing anything right? Because if he is, none of your lot seem to notice or post about it.

He has done some good things, but that doesn't change the fact that we have a real issue with league form right now, if it wasn't for a the league cup I believe Kenny would be under real pressure.

[Craig_H]

So he has done some good things, but it's not good enough. Ok then. If it's not good enough, he needs to go.

[Kenneth]

The internet is primarily for whinging and wanking. I know you've done plenty of the former before Kenny took over. I won't speculate on the latter. If we win the PL and CL double they'll be people whinging on here. It is not a reason to try and tar any criticism with the same brush and pick silly arguments with everyone else.

[Mattshark]

So he has done some good things, but it's not good enough. Ok then. If it's not good enough, he needs to go.

Or he could have the opportunity to sort it out.

Do you think we have been good enough in the league?

[cream]

It's not mere 'criticism' though. It's incessant. After every single game we dont win, the same bollocks and whinging. Literally with every game - if we dont win, people post **** on here. So we must win every game or people will complain

**** me, we won a cup last week and immediately afterwards there were people moaning and complaining

It's absurd and emphatic enough from some quarters to imply that Kenny's doing an appallingly **** job. If yesterday's game had gone exactly the same way, but a couple of balls had bounced off the post with a slightly different angle, we'd have won and probably not heard much of a peep from the doom mongers. Yet tiny fine margins go against us, and it's doomsday.

Of course there's room for improvement - i've already said countless times that we need to finish chances and the lack of finishers is costing us - so how is that an example of me thinking there's no room for improvement?

If you think Kenny's not doing a **** job, then he must be doing something right. Yet all i read from some is the negatives, no hint of anything good. So if Kenny's not doing anything good, then call for his head. Otherwise add some balance to the whinging, acknowledge some of the good things he's doing and stop crying after every single dropped point.

Yesterdays defeat means we probably won't qualify for the CL next season and people are allowed to be disappointed by that, regardless of how we played, it was the result that really counted. You talk about fine margins but being 10 points off fourth, where most fans expect us to be, isn't a fine margin. Being disappointed doesn't mean you want the manager to get the boot.

[Craig_H]

Why give him the opportunity to sort it out, if we dont believe he's the right man for the job?