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    Originally posted by Lecter View Post
    Magna Carta wasn't he one of those Spanish wide players Rafa wasted money on
    Probably, I wouldn't know I never watched Liverpool when Rafa was manager.

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      We have a new WUM folks

      And it's as clear as day, that it's a previously banned poster.

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        Originally posted by Lecter View Post
        We dominated first half as well, but I think it was to do with us playing decent football (until the final ball)

        So are you now admitting that our teams were toothless under Rafa
        I can't say that we were toothless under Rafa because we scored more goals than any other team in the league before we had to sell and not replace key players.

        The big difference between Kenny and Rafa is that Rafa is excellent getting the best out of both defensive and attacking players.

        Kenny hasn't exactly got the best out of our attacking players. Maybe one, Maxi.

        Rafa got the best out player after player after player, it didn't matter if it was an attacking player or not. He knew how to fit him into the system.

        Dalglish is a better man manager but tactically he isn't even close to be as good as Rafa, not even close.
        Stop the cyberhate


        from now on I will skip talking about our finances. That is a promise and will save myself from looking like a

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          Originally posted by Arn View Post
          I can't say that we were toothless under Rafa because we scored more goals than any other team in the league before we had to sell and not replace key players.

          The big difference between Kenny and Rafa is that Rafa is excellent getting the best out of both defensive and attacking players.

          Kenny hasn't exactly got the best out of our attacking players. Maybe one, Maxi.

          Rafa got the best out player after player after player, it didn't matter if it was an attacking player or not. He knew how to fit him into the system.

          Dalglish is a better man manager but tactically he isn't even close to be as good as Rafa, not even close.
          Good post Arn (not that I'm advocating the King getting the boot or anything, just that both had different strengths and weaknesses)
          Last edited by Buzzo; 04-01-12, 12:38 AM. Reason: Hasty realisation.
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            Originally posted by KingKenny77 View Post
            When he wins the CL with us, you'll have a point.
            You do actually realise Kenny actually won us a European Cup.

            Get the **** out of here LLLLLll WHOOOOOOOO OOOOOOO SSSERRRRRRRRR....

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              Originally posted by Arn View Post
              I can't say that we were toothless under Rafa because we scored more goals than any other team in the league before we had to sell and not replace key players.

              The big difference between Kenny and Rafa is that Rafa is excellent getting the best out of both defensive and attacking players.

              Kenny hasn't exactly got the best out of our attacking players. Maybe one, Maxi.

              Rafa got the best out player after player after player, it didn't matter if it was an attacking player or not. He knew how to fit him into the system.

              Dalglish is a better man manager but tactically he isn't even close to be as good as Rafa, not even close.

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                Originally posted by Arn View Post
                We dominated the second half because City let us do it and not because we played that great football.

                You can let the opposition dominate if they aren't a threat the last third.

                A tactic many teams used against us when we had Rafa as manager.
                We actually dominated the first half and had the ball control before and after Reina's mistake and I am not so sure they let us play like that by design.

                If we only had the quality in the final third I don't think the it would have ended up as it did.

                They didn't do anything special.

                As I said before we "lost" this match rather than they "won" it.

                We made few big defensive mistakes and we really don't have anyone to blame but ourselves.

                They looked very poor for the side that bursts with quality on the paper.
                Last edited by Mostar; 04-01-12, 12:41 AM.
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                  Originally posted by Lecter View Post
                  Magna Carta wasn't he one of those Spanish wide players Rafa wasted money on
                  Rafa got more out of wide players like Benayoun and Riera than Kenny got from Downing.

                  Kenny isn't even close to get the best out of our attacking players. That is the problem and he can't blame that on anyone than himself.

                  He delivered 15 years ago but that was different times. Living in the past have very much to do with it.

                  There is a reason to why not a single manager have been a success after being out of the game for more than 10 years.
                  Stop the cyberhate


                  from now on I will skip talking about our finances. That is a promise and will save myself from looking like a

                  Susan Black

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                    If we don't sign a new striker and a creative playmaker/winger in the market I will be tearing my hair out. We need Carroll and Downing on the bench asap.

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                      Dont worry, we're signing Jamie O'Hara

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                        Originally posted by Arn View Post
                        I can't say that we were toothless under Rafa because we scored more goals than any other team in the league before we had to sell and not replace key players.

                        The big difference between Kenny and Rafa is that Rafa is excellent getting the best out of both defensive and attacking players.

                        Kenny hasn't exactly got the best out of our attacking players. Maybe one, Maxi.

                        Rafa got the best out player after player after player, it didn't matter if it was an attacking player or not. He knew how to fit him into the system.

                        Dalglish is a better man manager but tactically he isn't even close to be as good as Rafa, not even close.
                        Last paragraph I'd agree with

                        Rafa getting the best out of players.. hmmmm

                        Defensive ones YES

                        Attacking ones not so much

                        Garcia, Babel, Rieira, Keane, Pennant etc... he never really got a lot out of them

                        Torres he managed it with, Benayoun yes maybe, Crouch also..

                        Kuyt is an inbetweender for me

                        Rafa was a great tactician and that was his major strength but it was also his biggest flaw
                        Bob Paisley - "This club has been my life. I'd go out and sweep the street and be proud to do it for Liverpool if they asked me to."

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                          Originally posted by Arn View Post
                          Rafa got more out of wide players like Benayoun and Riera than Kenny got from Downing.

                          Kenny isn't even close to get the best out of our attacking players. That is the problem and he can't blame that on anyone than himself.

                          He delivered 15 years ago but that was different times. Living in the past have very much to do with it.

                          There is a reason to why not a single manager have been a success after being out of the game for more than 10 years.
                          Yeah, I only agreed with the differences that were highlighted between the strengths and weaknesses in Rafa and KD.

                          I don't think we are to far away from being a team that can challenge and win trophies tbh. We need a bit more quality (signings) in the final 1/3rd, and a bit more luck, but we play some really nice football at times.
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                              Originally posted by Arn View Post
                              Rafa got more out of wide players like Benayoun and Riera than Kenny got from Downing.

                              Kenny isn't even close to get the best out of our attacking players. That is the problem and he can't blame that on anyone than himself.

                              He delivered 15 years ago but that was different times. Living in the past have very much to do with it.

                              There is a reason to why not a single manager have been a success after being out of the game for more than 10 years.
                              Benayoun maybe

                              Rieira not for me

                              Rafa was VERY hit and miss with his attacking buys/players
                              Bob Paisley - "This club has been my life. I'd go out and sweep the street and be proud to do it for Liverpool if they asked me to."

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                                Originally posted by Mostar View Post
                                We actually dominated the first half and had the ball control before and after Reina's mistake and I am not so sure they let us play like that by design.

                                If we only had the quality in the final third I don't think the it would have ended up as it did.

                                They didn't do anything special.

                                As I said before we "lost" this match rather than they "won" it.

                                We made few big defensive mistakes and we really don't have anyone to blame but ourselves.

                                They looked very poor for the side that bursts with quality on the paper.
                                Bob Paisley - "This club has been my life. I'd go out and sweep the street and be proud to do it for Liverpool if they asked me to."

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