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  • JohnDoe
    Ian Holloway
    • Jul 2007
    • 10892

    #3301
    Originally posted by little dave hedgehog

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    • Pablo
      Anti-Antipodeanite
      • May 2007
      • 25808

      #3302
      Originally posted by Slinky Skills
      I'm still convinced that we're in with a shout of getting Guardiola you know guys I really do.
      Originally posted by colin85
      Me and you are the only ones to believe so
      I agree with what my compadre Captain Stu suggested earlier: If we'd asked Kenny to stay on one season more and set it up with Guardiola that he joins the following season, he might, I repeat might have been interested in that. I think as a club, and as a project we are something along the lines of what he will be looking for.

      Asking him to manage this season was always a non-starter though.

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      • colin85
        Hodgsoned
        • Dec 2011
        • 1272

        #3303
        Have to say, we really are becoming the joke club in this league. Taken Newcastle's title there.
        How many more managers are going to come out claiming they have turned us down?

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        • little dave hedgehog
          Token Yank
          • Mar 2009
          • 29963

          #3304
          this is partially because the fans meltdown at the drop of a tiny hat. sometimes it's justified sure, but if there's one thing the fans at this club do well it's self-important outrage.
          dave of mutilation

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          • frank the tank
            Paisley
            • Mar 2008
            • 12885

            #3305
            Originally posted by red g
            My worry is two fold #
            1) his managerial ability at a top club never tested
            2) if we get him it willl show our ambition and will probably be backed up with a 10-20million transfer fund.

            i was thinking the exact same thing.....if Martinez was signed, then we'd probably end up with a few of his signings in place until the DoF got his feet under the table and took over all player recruitment.

            Martinez's signings could be Diame (free transfer out of contract), Moses (tribunal fee of maybe 3 or 4 million), Rodallega (free transfer out of contract) and maybe someone like McCarthy as well (who i actually wouldn't mind at all to be honest - he'd probably give Dave Whelan 10m for him)


            I know we wont but let's say for arguments sake we really did appoint a Pep Guardiola, Mourinho, Ancelotti and maybe even Rafa to a lesser extent, then they would want big money to build their own team.

            Even if we gave Guardiola £150m to spend and he built a team that pissed the league. Then he'd want another 50-70m next season to go for the CL. And the same again the year later to keep evolving.....like he did with Fabregas and Alexi last year - even though they already had the best fockin team around!!!

            I reckon FSG want a manager that is essentially a coach. The DoF will essentially purchase the players. The coach is going to need to be a yes-man that is happy to work under this situation. Obviously the relationship between the DoF and the coach will need to be very good and also Martinez will have some input into the purchasing of players (probably the identification of what is required - ie: We need a right midfielder) but in reality, it's never going to work long term.

            Why? Well lets say it's Robbie Martinez that becomes our next coach. If he does badly, then he will be out on his ear anyway. However, if he does really well, then eventually he will want to test himself where he has total control of the football club. Where he picks the players to buy. Where he will be the number one man.....

            In reality, i reckon Kenny didn't get sacked. I reckon this structure was put to him and he told them to get focked. Otherwise, the owners would:
            1. Have sacked him when they were over for the cup final
            2. Have had someone lined up - or at least someone in mind.


            I also think this structure will rule Rafa out. He would be the ideal candidate to be honest but if the director of football got a signing or two wrong (Robbie Keane-esc) then it would end in tears pretty quickly. This is one of the reasons that Rafa left Valencia to come to us - remember he asked for a table and they brought him a lamp!!! My only hope would be that Segura got the role and the structure was really good and Rafa wanted it so badly that he agreed to get on with things.....

            To be honest, I wouldn't be 100% surprised if Martinez had a detailed look at it and turned it down as well.....

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            • little dave hedgehog
              Token Yank
              • Mar 2009
              • 29963

              #3306
              why on earth do we think that martinez is going to fill the squad with relegation survivors for small money instead of spending our resources on the sort of players he's always dreamed of having?
              dave of mutilation

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              • Darkon
                Football Expert
                • Apr 2007
                • 16264

                #3307
                Originally posted by little dave hedgehog
                this is partially because the fans meltdown at the drop of a tiny hat. sometimes it's justified sure, but if there's one thing the fans at this club do well it's self-important outrage.

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                • frank the tank
                  Paisley
                  • Mar 2008
                  • 12885

                  #3308
                  i can see us going all Wolves on it and ending up with Steve Clarke as manager.....

                  He will announce that he doesn't want the job......but will do it out of loyalty to Kenny....

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                  • frank the tank
                    Paisley
                    • Mar 2008
                    • 12885

                    #3309
                    Originally posted by little dave hedgehog
                    why on earth do we think that martinez is going to fill the squad with relegation survivors for small money instead of spending our resources on the sort of players he's always dreamed of having?
                    who has he dreamed of having??? Torres??? Alonso??? Mascherano??? You think any of the likes of these guys will come to LFC with Martinez in charge?? He name won't be big enough to attract players like Llorente, Falcao etc.... he will have to get LFC back into the top 4 with other players first.....


                    I actually hope we end up with Martinez next season................Javi Martinez - with Rafa as manager!!!

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                    • G
                      Paisley
                      • Aug 2006
                      • 16686

                      #3310
                      Originally posted by Pablo1981
                      I agree with what my compadre Captain Stu suggested earlier: If we'd asked Kenny to stay on one season more and set it up with Guardiola that he joins the following season, he might, I repeat might have been interested in that. I think as a club, and as a project we are something along the lines of what he will be looking for.

                      Asking him to manage this season was always a non-starter though.
                      Pep wants a year off.Simple as that.

                      He has already said that after the year off he wants to work in England or Italy and not necessarily at a top club.

                      He'd take us on if it was next year,no doubt

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                      • Angryred
                        Shankly
                        • Jul 2006
                        • 5063

                        #3311
                        Pep wasn't banking on a club like Liverpool looking for a manager then so could well be quids in!
                        Nope, don't need anger management, you just need to stop pissing me off!

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                        • Robbie-9-Fowler
                          Shankly
                          • Jun 2008
                          • 9213

                          #3312
                          I've got a feeling, not sure why but the more I think about Martinez. The more I can see us playing 442.. No idea why this is in my head but.. It is.
                          Vive la France

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                          • IJM
                            Houllier
                            • Aug 2006
                            • 400

                            #3313
                            Originally posted by Neil Young
                            No, I'm talking about General Chang who was a Klingon officer and chief of staff to Gorkon, Chancellor of the Klingon High Council in 2293.

                            Obviously.
                            Yes. Of course. Because Klingons are known for their PR skills.
                            No! I am NOT in denial!

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                            • Suarez
                              Hodgsoned
                              • Apr 2010
                              • 2758

                              #3314
                              Originally posted by Slinky Skills
                              I'm still convinced that we're in with a shout of getting Guardiola you know guys I really do.

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                              • Mostar
                                Chief Scout
                                • Jun 2009
                                • 23194

                                #3315
                                Originally posted by little dave hedgehog
                                why on earth do we think that martinez is going to fill the squad with relegation survivors for small money instead of spending our resources on the sort of players he's always dreamed of having?
                                Aye. There is absolutely no reason to think that whoever the manager is that he'll be given any less money than if Jose was the chosen one.

                                FSG sacked Kenny as they want results and CL spot at least next year and they will not get there by buying Diame, Moses of this world etc

                                We will spend money I have no doubt about that at all.
                                Member #1 of the Luis Suarez fan club

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