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    #76
    I can't get the group setup to copy so check the link for full details


    Michael Sweeting discusses the FA’s new Under 21′s League that is introduced this season, a step in the right direction…?

    So, only twenty years after Spanish football came to realise its youth development procedure was flawed, The FA have come to the same conclusion. The reserve team system was correctly highlighted, along with the slightly better ran academy system, to be the root cause of England’s poor performances at international tournaments and terrible track record of developing talented young footballers.

    Simply put, the reserve league has too few games. For example Liverpool had several periods of three weeks or more without a single match despite progressing to the semi-finals of the NextGen Series, without which the gap in match time would have been more even severe. When players like Jonjo Shelvey, John Flanagan and Jack Robinson are restricted to a maximum of just twenty-two reserve team games per season is it any wonder why they find it so difficult to make enough of an impression to force their way into first team consideration?

    Clearly, even to the most casual of observers, the system needed overhauling. The FA’s answer is the shiny, new, rather convoluted ‘U21 Premier League’. It includes three groups (two groups of eight and one of seven) which then breaks down into three further groups based on final league positions which guarantees a minimum of twenty-eight league games per season and a potential of thirty-two matches. The exact details are best described by the flow chart below…





    On the face of it the system looks far better than the previous one. The three groups are not based on region so instead of playing the same teams every season (Bolton, Blackburn, Everton…) Liverpool will experience trips to Fulham, Chelsea and Middlesbrough as such benefitting from so far rare experiences such as staying overnight in hotels and learning about the slightly different styles of play across the country; the North West is famous for its never-say-die mental strength and physical approach whereas London football is more pace obsessed. It is essential for young footballers that they learn to cope with different approaches and will only stand them in good stead when attempting to bridge the gap to the first team set up.

    The greater amount of games will also give better scope for development, coaches will have a chance to experiment with formations and player positions which enhances the all around game of young players, improving different assets of their skill set and forcing them to activate their brains. The changing of positions is a system famously implemented by Ajax and Barcelona for decades with great success, if English clubs have more games they have more opportunity to copy it.

    However there are some glaring omissions from the new league set up. Firstly is the strange decision to divide the league into three. Many reserve team managers were asking for a full league system of twenty clubs – perhaps even an exact replica of the first team leagues. Including our own Rodolfo Borrell…

    “It’s just the start, the final idea I hope will to make one big group and play home and away.”
    Surely the club coaches would have been an important group for the FA to consult? While it’s not exactly disastrous for the league to be divided in such a way – and it appears to have been done so because the FA still want a show piece ‘final’ – it does mean that it probably isn’t going to be a permanent system and developing a stop-gap league isn’t what English football needs right now.

    Another problem is the limitation of first team players, although overage players are allowed to feature, there is a maximum number allowed and this reduces the chances of matches happening such as Liverpool v Everton last season when Everton practically fielded a first team and were left hanging on for a draw by the incisive running of Raheem Sterling. Playing against older, more experienced players is great for development and the new system appears to try and separate ‘reserve’ and ‘first team’ to a greater degree than the old system which is disappointing.

    On the whole though the U21 Premier League is a step in the right direction. More game time and experience for young lads on the cusp of first team football can only be viewed in a positive light even if there are some deficiencies to the overall system which will either need a tweak or whole new rethink this time next year. For now though we can sit back and watch the football… safe, in the knowledge we won’t have to wait a month between games.

    As Rolo Borrell says “It’s just the start”.

    Me, I’m either planning a holiday or I’m on one.

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      #77
      .no have a little round-up of transfers involving former LFC players, here a some of kids:

      Damien Plessis: Moved from Panathinaikos to Arles-Avignon.

      Lee Peltier: From Leicester to Leeds £750k

      David Raven: From Tranmere to Caledonian Thistle

      Ray Putterill: Made his debut for Rochdale

      Francisco Duran: Signed for FK Jagodina in Serbia

      Adam Pepper: From Aberystwyth Town to Stalybridge Celtic

      So it doesn`t look like we have missed out on anything by letteing these guys go.

      The one we might have missed out on is Alexander Kacaniklic who as been called up to Swedens squad against Brazil. Him left for Fulham in that great deal that brought us The Konk
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        #78
        Always rated Kacaniklic. Speedy winger with a box of tricks. He was a bit erratic but remember seeing him in a demoilition of a game beating opposition 6-0 and he looked a real talent.

        Could do with him now actually
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        Weak willed, Wank or do they have a masterplan?

        Think we have the answer..Slot!!

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          #79
          Bloody hell. What happened to Pepper? I thought he was supposed to be a massive talent.

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            #80
            Duran is the surprise. Injuries wrecked his chances with us, then as he recovered we got rid. Didn't live up to his hype either so right decision in the end.

            I didn't even know we'd got rid of Kakalickineach until he turned up for Fulham! That was a stupid decision.
            One tit for another.

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              #81
              Originally posted by BigChief View Post
              Duran is the surprise. Injuries wrecked his chances with us, then as he recovered we got rid. Didn't live up to his hype either so right decision in the end.

              I didn't even know we'd got rid of Kakalickineach until he turned up for Fulham! That was a stupid decision.
              He looked good but he only played 3 games I think. He had 2 bad injuries and by the time he had recovered, his contract was up and we got rid.
              My kebab comes with chilli sauce

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                #82
                Suso scored again today and set up another one.

                5 goals in 4 games.
                Member #1 of the Luis Suarez fan club

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                  #83
                  suso didnt impress me too much though - sure it was a great goal and assist (plus he hit the post) but he was very wasteful and when he lost the ball he didnt really fight to go win it back

                  Wisdom had a great game tho

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                    #84
                    I hope Suso goes out on loan now, he won't improve playing reserve team football.

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                      #85
                      Originally posted by ntto View Post
                      suso didnt impress me too much though - sure it was a great goal and assist (plus he hit the post) but he was very wasteful and when he lost the ball he didnt really fight to go win it back

                      Wisdom had a great game tho
                      I take it Ngoo didn't play and add to his great pre-season record?

                      USA U20’s 2 - Liverpool
                      Michael Ngoo was on the mark as Liverpool Reserves beat USA U20s 4-2 on Thursday afternoon.In an exciting friendly encounter at the Academy, Rodolfo Borrell's young side played some superb football and will be delighted with this victory.

                      Conor Coady played his first game since returning from England U19 duty in the European Championships, and Toni Silva was again on top form after returning from his loan spell with Northampton Town last season.

                      Joining Ngoo on the mark were Silva, Bosnian youngster Armin Hodzic and Marc Pelosi.


                      Chester 2 – 3 Liverpool

                      Spanish starlet Nacho hit the winner as Liverpool Reserves came back from 2-0 down to beat Chester 3-2 on Wednesday night.

                      Michael Ngoo was in brilliant form for Rodolfo Borrell's side and set up two goals and was also on the mark himself.

                      Borrell's side showed great spirit to come back against a good Chester team who provided the young Reds with a stern test.

                      The home side started brightly and were 2-0 up before Ngoo netted after being set up by Kristoffer Peterson.

                      Ngoo then made it 2-2 from a Marc Pelosi assist, before he played in Nacho who fired the winner.


                      Liverpool 4 – 1 Rochdale

                      Liverpool U21s continued their preparations for the new season with a 4-1 friendly victory over Rochdale at the Academy on Monday afternoon.

                      Spanish youngster Suso fired the Reds into the lead just after the half-hour mark with a curling effort from the edge of the box - though the visitors drew level just moments later.

                      However, with 20 minutes left on the clock, Adam Morgan's superb long-range strike handed the Reds the advantage once again.

                      Michael Ngoo then struck a late brace to give the scoreline a much more emphatic look.


                      Bray 1 – 5 Liverpool

                      Michael Ngoo fired a hat-trick as Liverpool U21s beat Bray Wanderers 5-1 in a pre-season friendly on Sunday.

                      Rodolfo Borrell's side played some sparkling football at times and delighted the Irish Reds who were at the match.

                      Suso also netted with a brilliant free-kick and Nathan Eccleston added a penalty.



                      Ngoo.
                      If we are all only happy when we are really winning in the end, when your race finishes, what life would that be?

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                        #86


                        I've barely seen him play but I really want him to get some game time this season.
                        "The man who never alters his opinion is like standing water, and breeds reptiles of the mind."
                        -- William Blake

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                          #87
                          Bray, Rochdale, Chester, and the might of USA U20s. Wow. Drop Suarez and start Ngoo immediately

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                            #88
                            Ngemeth
                            One tit for another.

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                              #89
                              Ngoo came on second half - the kid is a monster

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                                #90
                                i knew nemeth was never going to make it because his name is szilard. sounds like a harry potter villain.
                                dave of mutilation

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