Hillsborough

[Liverpool]

The inquest was due to last 6 months. The previous report put to bed fan behaviour and other things in which the SYP apologised for at the time. Now they go back on that and bring it all up again to deflect blame and causing this inquest to last over 2 years whilst the families have to listen to their bile and say nothing in case the inquest collapses. It's avoidable costs.

[TheElephantMan]

There have been two inquests, they are judicial inquiries with a judge and jury in this case. It costs what it costs, and the outcome and the wider significance of the outcome is worth every penny. This was about establishing the truth of what happened and explaining why it happened. If there are criminal prosecutions then the people involved will need further representation.

I don't disagree with that, but it is perceived that they wasted a lot of time and money unnecessarily during the process which might explain why their Chief Constable was suspended. It doesn't matter now anyway, but I would argue that as they've spent so much money defending themselves during the inquest then they should have limited funds available for any future proceedings against them.

[TheElephantMan]

I agree it's a lot of money, but it has to be a robust process. However much it costs so be it, but SYP considerably slowed down the inquest unnecessarily using public money and for me I think that their defence budget should absolutely be a finite pot. They wasted time and money defending themselves during an inquest when that money would have been better used defending them when they're up before the criminal courts. Let them pay for their own defence now.

[Kenneth]

It was an inquiry though, if it was a criminal prosecution then fair enough I suppose. I'm no legal expert, but the criminal proceedings will happen and I think that those police officers have already spent their defence money.

There have been two inquests, they are judicial inquiries with a judge and jury in this case. It costs what it costs, and the outcome and the wider significance of the outcome is worth every penny. This was about establishing the truth of what happened and explaining why it happened. If there are criminal prosecutions then the people involved will need further representation.

[Alex]

£25m though? How hard have the families had to work to get that sort of money for representation over the years?

Just doesnt sit right. Not commenting if it should/should not happen.

[TheElephantMan]

It was an inquest though, if it was a criminal prosecution then fair enough I suppose. I'm no legal expert, but the criminal proceedings will happen and I think that those police officers have already spent their defence money.

[Kenneth]

I don't have an issue with that. Everyone should be represented properly in legal proceedings and it is good that the legal process was so robust, it has lead us to completely unambiguous conclusions.

[Alex]

[ame]https://twitter.com/PhilWilliams/status/725447805779742720[/ame]

[Leyton388]

27 years and justice has been done.

[ame="https://youtu.be/lGsK1fx8t18"]LFC-TV pays tribute to all 96 victims of the Hillsborough disaster of April 15th 1989. - YouTube[/ame]

[Leyton388]

Signed.

[wongers]

https://www.change.org/p/parliament-strip-bernard-ingham-of-his-knighthood?recruiter=183132471&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=copylink

go to this link lets strip this ******* of his knighthood

[wongers]

https://www.change.org/p/parliament-strip-bernard-ingham-of-his-knighthood?recruiter=183132471&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=copylink

go to this link lets strip this ******* of his knighthood

[Roboklopp]

Justice won't be served until there is accountability. The fans that died that day, that survived that day (it is sometimes easy to forget that there were over 700 people injured that day) and that were also just there but not caught in the crush have now been fully exonerated. That was the big win of yesterday.

But they were tarred as scumbags, painted as people who killed their own fans. The police, the government at a few different levels, certain parts of the media that were basically used as a governmental propaganda toolpiece all made out that Liverpool fans, and people from Liverpool in general were scumbags. It is a stigma that has been allowed to stick for a generation. (sidenote - the fact that Everton fans sang the "always the victims" song a week ago at Anfield was a big kick as well to be honest)

So for me, and I suspect for many of the families, there won't be justice until all of those who ****ed up on the day are done for negligence and all of those who were complicit in the cover up are done for perverting the course of justice.

And even now, after a jury sat for over 2 years hearing all of that evidence, and have basically said that the fans played no part and that the police ****ed up, I would still be very surprised if anyone ever served a day in prison over this.

For the South Yorkshire Police to come out with some crappy PR statement about fully accepting the findings was also pretty despicable. 27 years on and after a 2 year inquiry they come out with an acceptance.

The likes of Duckenfield and Bettison who still peddled the notion that fans were at fault after all the pain over all that time should rot in hell. They ****in knew full well. What is espeically gauling is that they are sitting on nice police pensions and would have got expenses for appearing at the enquiry.......the whole thing still makes me angry to be honest.

Can't help but feel, like a lot of the paedo stuff, so much time has passed that a fair few responsible will either be dead or given leniency on compassionate grounds due to their age.

[Yozza]

Police chief suspended over Hillsborough

South Yorkshire Police's chief constable David Crompton suspended over response to Hillsborough, BBC understands

[el matador]

im happy that the families who lost people are finally on the road to getting some justice and maybe some closure too.

27 years is a long time to be fighting the establishment.