Daniel Sturridge

[Fosterbloke]

At times he was sublime at others he was total gash. I just don't see the consistency but now the drink driving stuff has passed he may well do it this year. I agree re getting 15 plus out of the others but it's a big ask. For me he likes to drop deep and is better getting more involved. That can leave us light up top.

Hence the purchases of Mane and Salah, and the dynamism of Keita (should we buy him). We'll have an extremely fluid team and if it's singing, is hard as **** to defend against which is how we sacked teams like Watford, Leicester and Hull last season.

[BobTheCharmer]

Hence the purchases of Mane and Salah, and the dynamism of Keita (should we buy him). We'll have an extremely fluid team and if it's singing, is hard as **** to defend against which is how we sacked teams like Watford, Leicester and Hull last season.

But didn't we find teams kind of figured us out a bit? Sit deep, defend for your lives and we struggle. Sometimes it's muscle that gets you out of those situations not trying to walk it with intricate passing. See Zlatan, Kane and Costa.

[baitman]

But didn't we find teams kind of figured us out a bit? Sit deep, defend for your lives and we struggle. Sometimes it's BEEF that gets you out of those situations not trying to walk it with intricate passing. See Zlatan, Kane and Costa.

its no good putting midgets up against a couple of thuggish defenders.

i am shocked that firmino is 5' 11 and a 1/2"

[Fierce]

But didn't we find teams kind of figured us out a bit? Sit deep, defend for your lives and we struggle. Sometimes it's muscle that gets you out of those situations not trying to walk it with intricate passing. See Zlatan, Kane and Costa.

Whilst we absolutely do not play that way, and I don't want us to, it would be nice to have that as an option. That then brings us back to quality though, if we aren't going to completely change the way we play to accommodate a top level big old unit up front, then we have to look further down in terms of ability

Someone like Llorente would seem like a decent fit. Getting on, still strong and scores but would (presumably) be happy being a plan B option

Which is probably why Chelsea look to be in for him

[baitman]

Whilst we absolutely do not play that way, and I don't want us to, it would be nice to have that as an option. That then brings us back to quality though, if we aren't going to completely change the way we play to accommodate a top level big old unit up front, then we have to look further down in terms of ability

Someone like Llorente would seem like a decent fit. Getting on, still strong and scores but would (presumably) be happy being a plan B option

Which is probably why Chelsea look to be in for him

we dont need a 'plan B'
what we need is a big strong lad who is also athletic enough to still be an effective presser and worker and fit in with the team ethic.
we can still modify or tweak the system to give us variation, but no good having to switch players around if we decide to launch it.
morata please.

[Pablo]

we dont need a 'plan B'
what we need is a big strong lad who is also athletic enough to still be an effective presser and worker and fit in with the team ethic.
we can still modify or tweak the system to give us variation, but no good having to switch players around if we decide to launch it.
morata please.

Does Origi not meet that criteria?

[baitman]

Does Origi not meet that criteria?

no.
big~check
strong~check
no sense of whats going on around him~check

[BobTheCharmer]

Does Origi not meet that criteria?

He spends too long on the floor. It's exactly what he should be, needs to get rough and man the **** up.

[danperkins]

Yeah for a big guy he really needs some aggression, gets pushed off the ball & does seem to give up far too easy. Has a bit of the Emile Heskey's about him. For me though his problem is game intelligence. Doesn't seem to make the right runs or make the right decisions on the ball. Still young though.

[Charly]

heskey mk2

[Pablo]

**** you guys are harsh

[Phoenix07]

If we are keeping Sturridge, then it's a toss-up in terms of what happens with Origi and Ings for me.

We'd have Firmino, Sturridge, Solanke, Origi and Ings on the books. One of them is probably going to be sold or loaned out.

Even if we played a diamond at times, when, let's say we have injuries to our wide players, that's still far too many forwards to have. I know folks say Solanke will probably feature more often in the U23's, but he was after first team football at Chelsea, and only played once.

[Kenneth]

If one goes it has to be Ings, surely. Needs to get and stay fit and try and build his career again in the championship I reckon.

[RedReet]

If we are keeping Sturridge, then it's a toss-up in terms of what happens with Origi and Ings for me.

We'd have Firmino, Sturridge, Solanke, Origi and Ings on the books. One of them is probably going to be sold or loaned out.

Even if we played a diamond at times, when, let's say we have injuries to our wide players, that's still far too many forwards to have. I know folks say Solanke will probably feature more often in the U23's, but he was after first team football at Chelsea, and only played once.

When Solanke signed, the club specifically said he's signed to play U-23's this year.Why would they say that if they had first team plans for him?

Sturridge will be injured come August and Ings won't be fit, so all that leaves is Firmino and Origi. We definitely aren't oversubscribed IMO.

[Phoenix07]

When Solanke signed, the club specifically said he's signed to play U-23's this year.Why would they say that if they had first team plans for him?

Sturridge will be injured come August and Ings won't be fit, so all that leaves is Firmino and Origi. We definitely aren't oversubscribed IMO.

The press reports said he'd be used in the u23's for us, but he still wanted first team action at Chelsea, and never got it. It'd be a bit of a sideway move for him if he was just for the u23's, rather than feature in the cups and sub appearances here and there.