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...and 'Thor' Ragnarok Klavan. Miss the guyOriginally posted by Buzzo View PostWith respect, I don’t see how saying Markovic is ****e, a guy who barely kicked a ball for us is comparable to relentlessly going after Lovren a player who was a huge part of our run to the CL final and his countries run to the WC Final.
Lovren has become a top class centre back, clearly when Brendan was here this was not the case. But to continually slate him when he really hasn’t done much wrong is a bit boring.
Big Virgil made a howler in the first few minutes against City in the CL last year. All defenders will make mistakes.
... except Robbo obviously.
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But he didn't just say he was ****e though did he, hence my post. BalanceOriginally posted by Buzzo View PostWith respect, I don’t see how saying Markovic is ****e, a guy who barely kicked a ball for us is comparable to relentlessly going after Lovren a player who was a huge part of our run to the CL final and his countries run to the WC Final.
Lovren has become a top class centre back, clearly when Brendan was here this was not the case. But to continually slate him when he really hasn’t done much wrong is a bit boring.
Big Virgil made a howler in the first few minutes against City in the CL last year. All defenders will make mistakes.
... except Robbo obviously.
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With respect, I don’t see how saying Markovic is ****e, a guy who barely kicked a ball for us is comparable to relentlessly going after Lovren a player who was a huge part of our run to the CL final and his countries run to the WC Final.
Lovren has become a top class centre back, clearly when Brendan was here this was not the case. But to continually slate him when he really hasn’t done much wrong is a bit boring.
Big Virgil made a howler in the first few minutes against City in the CL last year. All defenders will make mistakes.
... except Robbo obviously.
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Actually here's the full text of the article and it's actually quite a decent interview. The discussed part is in bold:
Dejan Lovren says Liverpool are in a three-way battle for the Premier League title – and is under no illusions regarding the task of dethroning champions Manchester City.
The Reds continued their best start to a league campaign with a 3-1 win over Manchester United on Sunday at Anfield.
Jurgen Klopp's side remain unbeaten after 17 games and lead the table by a point ahead of City, with Tottenham Hotspur a further five points adrift.
City bounced back from their first defeat of the league campaign at Chelsea by beating Everton at the Etihad on Saturday to temporarily take over top spot.
And Lovren acknowledges Pep Guardiola's men remain the team to beat.
“I'm not sure that they have any weaknesses,” said the Reds defender. “Last year they won by 19 points. They know how to manage even when they lose.
“They also lost one or two games last year. Still they managed to be 19 points ahead.
“It doesn't mean anything. There are so many games in front of us and in front of them. It will be a tight race and it's not only City. Tottenham is only a couple of points behind.
“You cannot sit and enjoy and say: 'We have five or six points in front of everyone'. It doesn't work like that. Every game for us is a final.”
Liverpool have the chance to open up a four-point gap on City when they travel to in-form Wolverhampton Wanderers on Friday night.
Lovren, though, has echoed the words of several team-mates in choosing to ignore Guardiola's side.
“Look, there's a competition,” he said. “This is what we want, but we don't look at who is in front of us or behind us.
“It's just about us. It's more about how we train, how we do on the pitch and the result will come. There are quite a lot of games still to go but we go game-by-game.
“City won on Saturday so on Sunday we had pressure. It can be from both ways a positive thing. We will not look back, we will just look forward.”
Lovren was making only his fifth Premier League appearance of the season at the weekend.
With Trent Alexander-Arnold and James Milner joining Joe Gomez and Joel Matip on the sidelines, Nathaniel Clyne was given a first league start of the season at right-back.
And Lovren believes the impressive performance from the England international underlines how Klopp now has a squad of players capable of stepping in at short notice.
“I think there are quite a lot of players who have been for a couple of seasons now with Jurgen,” he said.
“We know and he knows what we need to do so there's not too much to say, especially for Clyney.
“When you look back, he didn't play for I don't know how many months and he did a fantastic game.
“This is important, and of course it's important to keep this momentum and to enjoy this moment.
“Hopefully there won't be many injuries because we need everyone. Today, even the 25th player is important.”
Liverpool are the only Premier League team still unbeaten this season and capable of matching Arsenal's Invincibles of 2003-04.
“Hopefully we can be unbeaten until the end of the season,” said Lovren. “Of course it will be a challenge but this is what we want, this is why we came here to Liverpool, because we know we can do it.
“Is it possible? Arsenal did it before so why not?"
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No scapegoat buzz, a tongue in cheek conversation turned sideways into a serious one. Well in relation to me anyways.Originally posted by Buzzo View PostI don’t see why we always need a scapegoat?
Lovren was part of an amazing defence last season, even with Karius behind him. He has improved beyond recognition since Klopp cane in.
He makes occasional mistakes, but if you look at it that way Alisson has made two howlers this season - should we also be on his case?
Whatever floats particular boats I guess.
Also I reckon Salah plays better when Lovren is in the team
And he was at fault for not closing that cross down imo & said by panel on tv aswell post match. No abuse, scapegoat, agenda etc just facts.
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Originally posted by Kenneth View PostDefending our own players from dogs abuse by our own fans. Sorry, reason stupid of me. Go ahead. Totally comparable to blaming a CB playing RB for a goalkeeping howler.
Ken don't make me copy and paste some of your Markovic comments. Get off that high horse pal. Actually we have had this conversation before aswell where you gave me stick for criticising someone & i pointed out to you that you are not exactly squeaky clean yourself.
Anyways nobody is saying the keeper didn't make a massive cock up, it was a huge **** up but fact is Lovren made no challenge to block cross was a error by any defenders standards and in relation to the subject of the conversation. It was pointed out by the pundits after the game too so i'm not pulling this out of thin air. You let a cross in and there is more likelihood of a goal than not letting the cross in.Last edited by danperkins; 20-12-18, 01:45 PM.
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Klopp will probably laugh in Lovren's face, slap him, and then hug him very tightly.
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I'm not sure how to feel about his latest comments.
It's clearly been drilled into them by management to take it a game at a time, to only think about the next game, respect the opponents, not too over-enthuse etc... and he's broken that protocol. To what extent he was pushed by the interviewer, it's hard to say. I've seen him in other interviews this season as he's been very level-headed, even showing some leadership qualities, so this was a surprise.
However, I also think it's a bit fanciful to think that his comments have a direct effect on his performance. I guess we'll see tomorrow
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I don’t see why we always need a scapegoat?
Lovren was part of an amazing defence last season, even with Karius behind him. He has improved beyond recognition since Klopp cane in.
He makes occasional mistakes, but if you look at it that way Alisson has made two howlers this season - should we also be on his case?
Whatever floats particular boats I guess.
Also I reckon Salah plays better when Lovren is in the team
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Defending our own players from dogs abuse by our own fans. Sorry, really stupid of me.. go ahead. And totally comparable to blaming a CB playing RB for a goalkeeping howler.Originally posted by danperkins View PostSome may say defending Moreno and Mignolet for years is stupid. But i'd never say that about you Ken
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Some may say defending Moreno and Mignolet for years is stupid. But i'd never say that about you KenOriginally posted by Kenneth View PostThat's just silly. Maybe stupid is more appropriate.
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Ahhh dom, probably best you go back and watch the goal againOriginally posted by dom9 View PostGoalkeeper chucks the ball to the forward and you find a way to blame Lovren for a cross?
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