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    Originally posted by badpiggy View Post
    Did anyone else see that video of Lovren after the CL shouting at Mane? Was he being a bit of a cunt? Is he a cunt? As in would Klopp want him out?
    I have always felt he is/was a bit of a bell. The shouting at Mane and him at the forefront of the CL celebrations grabbing Hendo by the shirt whilst Hendo was holding big ears up. On the flip side. What has surprised my is the fact that him a Mo are bessies

    For me he was a decent player for us in the main, the occasional hiccup, but thats football

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      Lovren needs games to be good and he's not likely to get a run of games due to his place in the squad and the niggles he gets.

      Getting money for a 30yo injury prone player who is on 100k makes financial sense although it does leave us light for CBs. Fabinho did OK there last year as emergency cover.

      No way Berg or Hoever are ready though so we might get cover in January. No like Gomez and Matip are made of stone either.

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        The lack of cover at fullback and now centre back is going to cost us at some point. Going into a season with 5 defenders is a disaster waiting to happen

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          Good deal, but we should have gotten in a replacement earlier.

          That aside, we've cut a lot from our wage bill recently. Dejan and Sturridge are at least 200k. Moreno and Mig gone as well, I reckon Adrian is on a lower wage than Mig was on, must be at least 300k. a week better off just there. Surely we are preparing for something big next summer with all this streamlining.
          * The above is posted in my opinion. Feel free to disagree.

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            Originally posted by Shaggy View Post


            Hoever looks a hell of a prospect but he's 17. So is Sepp van den Berg. It's wild enough throwing 17 year olds into attacking positions. Playing 17 year olds at centre-back at this level is just bat****.

            On the other hand, Lovren can't stay fit for longer than a month or so without picking up some sort of niggle, and that's pretty useless especially when you're on 100k p/w.
            It's almost as if VVD is being relied on for teaching and training up the apprentice centre backs. He will be as a matter of course but I wonder how he feels about the club not bringing someone in to take the pressure off him occasionally.
            Last edited by Norbs; 13-08-19, 11:31 AM.

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              Originally posted by Liverpool View Post
              The lack of cover at fullback and now centre back is going to cost us at some point. Going into a season with 5 defenders is a disaster waiting to happen
              It's unbelievable. Literally 5 senior defenders.
              Thanks very much for being ‘This Mornings’ Farmer’

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                Originally posted by Assassin View Post
                I have always felt he is/was a bit of a bell. The shouting at Mane and him at the forefront of the CL celebrations grabbing Hendo by the shirt whilst Hendo was holding big ears up. On the flip side. What has surprised my is the fact that him a Mo are bessies

                For me he was a decent player for us in the main, the occasional hiccup, but thats football
                I'm surprised by that too. Although I'm not sure why. Anyway, I hate that thoughts of being stuck for a defender regardless of who it is. He can do a job for us.
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                  Originally posted by Liverpool View Post
                  The lack of cover at fullback and now centre back is going to cost us at some point. Going into a season with 5 defenders is a disaster waiting to happen
                  Originally posted by Shaggy View Post
                  It's unbelievable. Literally 5 senior defenders.


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                    Originally posted by Liverpool View Post
                    The lack of cover at fullback and now centre back is going to cost us at some point. Going into a season with 5 defenders is a disaster waiting to happen


                    Yep - I am not a Lovren fan but he has his uses vs certain teams and it makes no sense selling him if we are again rolling the dice.

                    We seem to have this mad desire to tempt fate by leaving us under resourced in multiple positions. You just know Fabinho will end up playing CB vs City away with Hendo as the 6

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                      Originally posted by The_weatherman View Post
                      Good deal, but we should have gotten in a replacement earlier.

                      That aside, we've cut a lot from our wage bill recently. Dejan and Sturridge are at least 200k. Moreno and Mig gone as well, I reckon Adrian is on a lower wage than Mig was on, must be at least 300k. a week better off just there. Surely we are preparing for something big next summer with all this streamlining.
                      All that money plus more has gone on contract extensions to Vvd, Mane, Salah, Bobby etc

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                        I think it's a decision being made on a human level more than a sporting or financial basis.
                        Trey Nyoni: countdown to stardom- 2 years 1year 0.5 years

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                          We are relying on the likes of Gini,Keita,AOC to cover the front three. Milner, Henderson, Fabinho to cover the defence. A few injuries across the board and we are ****ed. Simply can't compete with City using untested youth and midfielders to plug every hole.

                          Before Norwich I seen Shaqiri working on one of the turnstiles.

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                            Thanks very much for being ‘This Mornings’ Farmer’

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                              Ludicrous
                              3rd place. Worst champions ever.

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                                Originally posted by Norbs View Post
                                Leaves us one injury away from being in the ****. Bizarre
                                Which is what happened last year and cost us the title. £15m? He played well last year. Maybe it's a favour to him.

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