Vs Chelsea (H): Post Match Thread

[danperkins]

He was, no need to try and look elsewhere to excuse Coutinho.
100% solely his fault.

Nothing to do with Mingolet or Johnson or Moreno or anyone else.
The facts are this season Coutinho offers nothing defensively and offers very little end product.

Pretty bits of skill are pointless, doesn't score enough and doesn't create enough.

I think Coutinho is talented and would benefit from having two strikers ahead of him. Alot of the time there genuinely is no movement or runs for him to pick out a pass. In saying that he is really inconsistent & doesn't contribute much in the way of goals and assists.

[Bender]

Rodgers Post Match
[ame="http://youtu.be/4CH2cxxHd7Y"]Liverpool vs Chelsea 1 : 2 - Brendan Rodgers post-match interview - YouTube[/ame]

[Lecter]

Sterling has never played up top which is why I think we've not been playing him there.

1 up top isnt working but you also forget we leaked so many goals last season with that formation but as we have Suarez and Sturridge we got away with it we've currently got -50+ goals in that side at the moment which I get the feeling is why he's trying to make us harder to break down.

In all honesty the summer window looks to be the biggest issue to me not moving Borini on and getting in the right type of player up top has left us making do until we get Sturridge back which won't be the sudden solution to all our issues.

Mario hasnt played up top on his own yet we continue to try that, I dont see why you wouldnt try Sterling up top on that basis. If you dont want to try him bung Lambert up top at least try something different

We wont solve the defensive problems without changing personnel

The worry is we dont create enough now with this system. We dont press enough, we arent high enough, forward is too isolated

I worry for Brendan, but imo hes not helping himself persisting with a system that doesnt work now and didnt work when he tried it in his first season

[tanner]

I see a few people now making Sakho out to be our saviour.

Feck me, talk about absence making the heart grow fonder. There's a reason he's hardly started since moving here, I'll give you a clue as to what the reason is,

its because he's ****ing useless.

[Bender]

Mario hasnt played up top on his own yet we continue to try that, I dont see why you wouldnt try Sterling up top on that basis. If you dont want to try him bung Lambert up top at least try something different

We wont solve the defensive problems without changing personnel

The worry is we dont create enough now with this system. We dont press enough, we arent high enough, forward is too isolated

I worry for Brendan, but imo hes not helping himself persisting with a system that doesnt work now and didnt work when he tried it in his first season

Sterling would be a better shout than Balotelli,Sterling has better movement and speed to play upfront than Balotelli.

[Chazza]

Watch that goal back, only watch Glen Johnson and let me know what he's doing. Not taking the piss but seriously he does nothing, out of position doesn't try to get back and watched Coutinho awkwardly try and defend and yes fail.

It's not Johnsons man though is it?

Coutinho has tracked his man and then let him waltz past without a challenge.

People are quick enough to dig out others for losing or not challenging in one on one situations.

I don't think he should be playing wide though at times both him and sterling we coming inside to get involved and we had **** all width.

[Lecter]

Sterling would be a better shout than Balotelli,Sterling has better movement and speed to play upfront than Balotelli.

Marios best game was arguably alongside Sturridge

Sterling is the nearest player we have to Sturridge

[Rigadon]

From the match day thread:

Originally Posted by Mattshark

Our midfield looks slow and ponderous with the exception of Can today. Gerrard and Henderson offering next to nothing.

Agree with this. They've been poor all season (and during the World Cup with England).

I was critical of Lucas, last season, but he's played well this season and provides more cover in front of the back four (than Gerrard). He also reads the game much better than Gerrard.

Can, Lallana and Allen currently offer more than Henderson.

The other big (bigger) problem is up front. Balotelli and Lambert have been poor. Borini has offered more (in the few minutes he's played).

[Lecter]

From the match day thread:



Agree with this. They've been poor all season (and during the World Cup with England).

I was critical of Lucas, last season, but he's played well this season and provides more cover in front of the back four (than Gerrard). He also reads the game much better than Gerrard.

Can, Lallana and Allen currently offer more than Henderson.

The other big (bigger) problem is up front. Balotelli and Lambert have been poor. Borini has offered more (in the few minutes he's played).

Allen is dreadful, doesnt win possession, doesnt effect the play up top. Too many sideways / backwards passes.

Borini offers more movement but he cant pass, shoot or dribble. I also think the movement is kind of irrelevant without runners from midfield and they are too deep

I think Henderson and Sterling have both been hampered by the system this season imo

[RichC]

Mario hasnt played up top on his own yet we continue to try that, I dont see why you wouldnt try Sterling up top on that basis. If you dont want to try him bung Lambert up top at least try something different

We wont solve the defensive problems without changing personnel

The worry is we dont create enough now with this system. We dont press enough, we arent high enough, forward is too isolated

I worry for Brendan, but imo hes not helping himself persisting with a system that doesnt work now and didnt work when he tried it in his first season

Mario is a striker though and I whilst I agree he's not worked out for us Sterling isn't. Giving him a go couldn't hurt but it would also leave us more exposed again and at the moment leaking goals is as much an issue as scoring them in fact more so as when we leak we don't really look like we have many goals in us.

The other side of it is how poor many of the players are playing and not just the favourites that people like to dig at - Sterling looks off it at the moment as does Henderson. The defence is best ignored at the moment as bar Mignolet there is very little good to say about any of them really.

You can't saying going to a 2 up top diamond but this is just going to expose the faults in the side even more

[cream]

Sturridge will be back next game and everything will be ok.

[Rigadon]

Allen is dreadful, doesnt win possession, doesnt effect the play up top. Too many sideways / backwards passes.

Borini offers more movement but he cant pass, shoot or dribble. I also think the movement is kind of irrelevant without runners from midfield and they are too deep

I think Henderson and Sterling have both been hampered by the system this season imo

A dreadful Allen has arguably been better than a dreadful Gerrard and a dreadful Henderson.

I think you should judge our players on how they are playing rather than some preconceived opinion. You don't like Allen. You'll never like Allen. You make that clear in every post - even when he's not playing

As for Borini - he can't pass, shoot or dribble? - yet he's been better than Balotelli and Lambert.

[Lecter]

Mario is a striker though and I whilst I agree he's not worked out for us Sterling isn't. Giving him a go couldn't hurt but it would also leave us more exposed again and at the moment leaking goals is as much an issue as scoring them in fact more so as when we leak we don't really look like we have many goals in us.

The other side of it is how poor many of the players are playing and not just the favourites that people like to dig at - Sterling looks off it at the moment as does Henderson. The defence is best ignored at the moment as bar Mignolet there is very little good to say about any of them really.

You can't saying going to a 2 up top diamond but this is just going to expose the faults in the side even more

I dont think the diamond leaves us any more exposed than this system

This system leaves us on the back foot and we have a glassjaw, we need to come out swinging like Tommy Hearns use to

Sterling and Henderson have underperformed no doubt but the more I watch the more I think the system is hampering them also

[alonso14]

I have no idea

IMO Brendan isnt helping himself

Its frustrating watching the team. We are persisting with the same tactics that have got us nowhere this season and its down to just self belief / stubborness that everything will eventually be ok.

I totally agree mate that the system that seems to suit us best is the diamond with 2 in attack, but despite having borini its never been tried. But we keep putting balotelli up front on his own when he has shown many times he cant play without a partner.

The most worrying factor for me is the midfield. Our midfield cant do anything right, its defensively poor, there's no creation in there at all and it doesn't close down the opposition. Chelsea played through the middle of the park with ease over and over again.

Gerrard, Henderson and Can offered no resistance at all.

[Lecter]

A dreadful Allen has arguably been better than a dreadful Gerrard and a dreadful Henderson.

I think you should judge our players on how they are playing rather than some preconceived opinion. You don't like Allen. You'll never like Allen. You make that clear in every post - even when he's not playing

As for Borini - he can't pass, shoot or dribble? - yet he's been better than Balotelli and Lambert.

Allen is not better than Gerrard or Henderson no matter what

I dont like him you are right because he doesnt effect the play at either end of the pitch hes the most neutral player I have seen at Anfield

Borini really isnt better than Mario or Lambert and if he genuinely is then why isnt Brendan starting him??????