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    Originally posted by baitman View Post

    i will bite... mostly i would bin him, but he does have the big game in him, often very frustrating with his negative play etc.
    obviously if he played like last night every game then he is a keeper.

    what we need is consistency all around the team, no weak links.
    I don’t think you can accuse him of negative play. We are possibly the most attacking team in Europe. He has a job to do in the team, and I think he is excellent at it. His job is not to play miracle passes, it is to set the foundation for the front three. Press the ball, win it back then we spring the trap.

    Wijnaldum also showed his prowess when put in a strong an attacking mid yesterday. We need strength in our squad. Selling guys that preform to the level we played last night would make no sense.
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      I don't get this negative play thing either. This "he only passes backwards and sideways" is just demonstrably bollocks most of the time.

      But we also see plenty of people bemoaning the fact that we don't have a proper DM, yet when one of our midfielders should dare play like one - i.e. break up play and then keep it simple with passes, that player then gets accused of being negative

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        Originally posted by Reece View Post
        I don't get this negative play thing either. This "he only passes backwards and sideways" is just demonstrably bollocks most of the time.

        But we also see plenty of people bemoaning the fact that we don't have a proper DM, yet when one of our midfielders should dare play like one - i.e. break up play and then keep it simple with passes, that player then gets accused of being negative


        Yeah, I think the only thing Henderson can do to keep people quiet is win the trophy.

        We scored 5 goals in the CL semi finals, the biggest game every single one of our players has ever played in. It was an amazing display of attacking football.
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          I stand by what I said regarding our selling, I wouldn't get rid of Lovren even after yesterday, similar with Wijnaldum, who was immense the whole game, but basically bottled us going 6-1 up immediately after Dzeko's goal. Honestly it was a terrible ****in miss and it would probably put us at +5 instead of +3 for the away leg.

          Both of them can play great and they have the ability to be top players, but they just lack that something to keep it going for the whole 90 minutes. So basically more than good squad players, and anyone who thinks we don't need those can just look at our remaining healthy players right now. Unless you expect us to buy 8 new people this summer. But as far as our future strongest line-up is concerned, neither should be a part of it.

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            Sturridge
            Ings
            Solanke
            Origi
            Can (only coz he wants out)
            Mig
            Bogdan

            Don't see the point in getting rid of the likes of Lallana, Gini, Lovren, Klaven and Matip. They are all valuable squad members, yes add more quality, but ripping the squad up, **** that. Get rid of the ones that are not adding of value to the squad.

            In: Kieta, Neves, Sessegnon, Werner, Allison, top CB.

            Promote: Wilson.
            Brandt - Keita - Van Dijk - Sessegnon

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              Don't really see the need to upgrade Karius at a high cost, unless we are happy with the rest of the squad. We need at least two CM's, a CB and another attacker before we can think about a GK.
              * The above is posted in my opinion. Feel free to disagree.

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                Originally posted by Reece View Post
                I don't get this negative play thing either. This "he only passes backwards and sideways" is just demonstrably bollocks most of the time.

                But we also see plenty of people bemoaning the fact that we don't have a proper DM, yet when one of our midfielders should dare play like one - i.e. break up play and then keep it simple with passes, that player then gets accused of being negative
                Plus he wastes possession too often with those inside crosses into the box. So he needs to cut out the backwards, sideways and forward passing, defend like Mascherano and score as many as Salah and then, just then may he be good enough to play for LFC.
                If we are all only happy when we are really winning in the end, when your race finishes, what life would that be?

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                  Originally posted by The_weatherman View Post
                  Don't really see the need to upgrade Karius at a high cost, unless we are happy with the rest of the squad. We need at least two CM's, a CB and another attacker before we can think about a GK.

                  keita is done, but thats a like for like swap for can, a 1st team midfielder, even if not similar in style, so still need another two proper midfielders.

                  neves would be great. maddison [norwich] also linked. sessengnon as winger would be awesome.
                  removing all the weak links makes us stronger

                  too many gutless players, no beef or desire. pussies everywhere... sack them all.

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                    Originally posted by baitman View Post

                    keita is done, but thats a like for like swap for can, a 1st team midfielder, even if not similar in style, so still need another two proper midfielders.

                    neves would be great. maddison [norwich] also linked. sessengnon as winger would be awesome.
                    Keita, Neves, Maddison, Sessegnon would actually be pretty nice. I'd love someone like Bailey or Lozano too if we won't get Sessegnon. But I'd also be interested in another top centre half. Have we paid for Keita?
                    * The above is posted in my opinion. Feel free to disagree.

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                      certain to go.
                      ings
                      sturridge
                      migs
                      origi
                      bogdan


                      may go.
                      karius. mentally ruined?
                      lallana. permacrock

                      loan.
                      solanke. needs regular football to develop
                      woodburn. a seasons loan and then he will be ready

                      others?
                      removing all the weak links makes us stronger

                      too many gutless players, no beef or desire. pussies everywhere... sack them all.

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                        Is Markovic still with us?
                        Brandt - Keita - Van Dijk - Sessegnon

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                          Moreno

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                            Originally posted by baitman View Post
                            certain to go.
                            ings
                            sturridge
                            migs
                            origi
                            bogdan


                            may go.
                            karius. mentally ruined?
                            lallana. permacrock

                            loan.
                            solanke. needs regular football to develop
                            woodburn. a seasons loan and then he will be ready

                            others?
                            I don't see Karius leaving, nor Origi (based on this weeks press), nor Lallana.
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                              Originally posted by baitman View Post
                              certain to go.
                              ings
                              sturridge
                              migs
                              origi
                              bogdan


                              may go.
                              karius. mentally ruined?
                              lallana. permacrock

                              loan.
                              solanke. needs regular football to develop
                              woodburn. a seasons loan and then he will be ready

                              others?
                              Origi seems to have this pre-season to prove himself. If he goes it will only be late on the summer IMO.

                              Klopp seems to really like Lallana - I cant seem him going unless we got a big offer, which is pretty unlikely.

                              Ings, Sturridge, Markovic and Mignolet are the only ones I feel confident will leave permanently.

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                                Rather keep Origi instead of Solanki.

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