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Don't think the club would allow it. If he doesn't sign this year we'll have to cash in. Losing him and potentially Klopp would be too big a blow, cash in and give Klopp the time and money to replace him for us.
Obviously I hope we don't, but I don't see us allowing him to run down his contract.
Personally, I get the viewpoint that we won’t pay him silly money, but at the same time, football is heading in that direction. Elite world superstars WILL command wages of £400k or more per week, that will gradually become the going rate. If we can’t live in that world, what does it say about our status as a club and where we sit in the food chain?
Ultimately, and I know this might be unpopular, but if we can’t afford elite players (and I’m not talking about signing the M’Bappes or Messis of this world, this is a player we already have at our club), then are the owners financially powerful enough to keep us at the top of the game?
They got us there (with much help from Klopp) and that’s a great achievement but if football moves forward at a pace they’re unable to sustain, then surely we either move on from them or get left behind.
I don’t want us to go back to the days of having to sell our best players. Whether it’s because our club cannot match their ambition or whether it’s because we can’t match their financial requirements. And let’s be honest here, we aren’t talking about a greedy player asking for stupid money in this scenario. You could feasibly list Mo Salah as being one of the world’s best 4 or 5 players at the moment. £400k per week for that, isn’t radical, given the market rate.
In reality nobody can afford those wages without some crafty accounting or limitless pit of money. Its countries not people that will drive those wages up. We can afford to pay Mo £400k a week. We can't afford the knock on effect of other players want 300k, 200k etc.
And if the sugar daddy gets bored its administration or worse.
If we can’t afford to keep one of the world’s best players - and bearing in mind, this is at a time when our club status is the biggest it has ever been - what picture does that paint of our ownership model and how conducive it is to being at the top of the modern game?
If a model is designed in a way that means we cannot afford to keep Mo Salah, is that the model we want?
Our model is different to those clubs which have 'proper' billionaires or sovereign wealth backing them. Our model is more in the United mode but without the same commercial firepower.
So we're able to pay extremely generous wages but we cannot go to places that those handful of clubs can go to. And do you know what, I'm ok with that.
When it comes to Salah, lets see where his head is at - no doubt he'd get paid something north of £400k a week at PSG, City, Chelsea or United. That's a figure I can't see us being able to match...
But he deserves as big a contract as the club can go to - whether that's £300k or whatever, let's offer that and see if he signs.
Our model is different to those clubs which have 'proper' billionaires or sovereign wealth backing them. Our model is more in the United mode but without the same commercial firepower.
So we're able to pay extremely generous wages but we cannot go to places that those handful of clubs can go to. And do you know what, I'm ok with that.
When it comes to Salah, lets see where his head is at - no doubt he'd get paid something north of £400k a week at PSG, City, Chelsea or United. That's a figure I can't see us being able to match...
But he deserves as big a contract as the club can go to - whether that's £300k or whatever, let's offer that and see if he signs.
He should be our highest paid player.
Do you know what the difference was between our annual turnover and that of Man Utd, in the last set of accounts?
And going forward, this is the level that elite players’ wages will be at. If our model/ownership means we can’t afford those levels, is it the right model for us?
It says nothing meaningful about us, and everything about the wider state of the game.
Yes but that’s the reality and it’s what will happen. In a way, this is not massively dissimilar to the way United jumped on the commercial bandwagon in the 90s and we stood still, watching them. Rightly or wrongly, football changes and you either go with it or you gradually cease to become competitive at the top level. I don’t like it but it is what it is. You either jump on board or watch the others leave you behind. Don’t get me wrong, it won’t happen overnight, it’ll be gradual. But it’s definitely on the cards.
Our model is different to those clubs which have 'proper' billionaires or sovereign wealth backing them. Our model is more in the United mode but without the same commercial firepower.
So we're able to pay extremely generous wages but we cannot go to places that those handful of clubs can go to. And do you know what, I'm ok with that.
When it comes to Salah, lets see where his head is at - no doubt he'd get paid something north of £400k a week at PSG, City, Chelsea or United. That's a figure I can't see us being able to match...
But he deserves as big a contract as the club can go to - whether that's £300k or whatever, let's offer that and see if he signs.
He should be our highest paid player.
I don't think we would have had the success we've had without the incentivised wage structure and I think it's a fantastic model. Not that I'm suggesting our players need financial incentives to play well, but I'm sure it's helped avoid a few potential bad transfers.
Did we not officially have the highest wages in the league in one of the recent publications (ignoring City's creative financing)? How on earth could we sustain making Mo a top earner in world football and the knock on affect to other wages at the club? It would be crippling.
If we are all only happy when we are really winning in the end, when your race finishes, what life would that be?
Do you know what the difference was between our annual turnover and that of Man Utd, in the last set of accounts?
And going forward, this is the level that elite players’ wages will be at. If our model/ownership means we can’t afford those levels, is it the right model for us?
I've asked this before your return and didn't get much of a reply.
What is a correct and sustainable model that we should be looking at?
If we are all only happy when we are really winning in the end, when your race finishes, what life would that be?
I've asked this before your return and didn't get much of a reply.
What is a correct and sustainable model that we should be looking at?
I think that, in terms of a model of self-sufficiency, and a status of being consistently successful in contesting and winning top honours, the two things will gradually become more and more mutually exclusive.
I think that, in terms of a model of self-sufficiency, and a status of being consistently successful in contesting and winning top honours, the two things will gradually become more and more mutually exclusive.
I think we are already running the most sustainable model possible? Our footballing success will largely depend on whether they get a grip of PSG/City/Chelsea and their spending, as they're the ones inflating the market in terms of wages. It does sadly feel like the horse has already bolted and there's **** all we can do. It's depressing.
I think we are already running the most sustainable model possible? Our footballing success will largely depend on whether they get a grip of PSG/City/Chelsea and their spending, as they're the ones inflating the market in terms of wages. It does sadly feel like the horse has already bolted and there's **** all we can do. It's depressing.
The days of us losing our best players to Barca and Real are over at least for the time being. Not just because they're both skint but because are they really more attractive options for a player to go to right now ?? Not IMO
We'll never sell Salah to another PL club.
PSG maybe but their front line is set for a few years so that option is unlikely
I believe Mo stays, we'll play him close to what he wants with a contract that has plenty of nice incentives in it
He is currently the 5th highest earning footballer in world football. He earns a fortune in endorsements. If you take into account he only earns 2million dollars less a season than mpappe (41 to 43) I am sure we can reach an agreement on wage if he wants to stay.
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