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https://www.premierinjuries.com/injury-table.phpOriginally posted by frank the tank View PostIs Becker actually injured??
According to this website, he's currently being assessed for a muscular injury
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Agree on all points, should have cashed in on Nat and Div sooner (although extenuating circumstances played a part) and Kelleher has been poor by his standards lately. But I still think he's a very good keeper and think playing regular games with a proper defence ahead of him will hopefully help him regain form.Originally posted by Irishnev View PostI know I am vastly simplifying things but here’s my thoughts. There’s two aspects for me - Kelleher as a player would’ve benefited from the move because he doesn’t get better without games. I think Nat Philips is a good example of not moving at the right time and having your career stagnate. I would say Kelleher has been actively poor in the games he has played recently and I’m not sure is it a lack of games or maybe he isn’t as good as we thought.
Aspect 2 is the club - I think we could’ve cashed in on him post quadruple attempt season. I am in no way advocating Adrien but rather use half the Kelleher money to buy what is a back up toke - go for an old pro as we have the world of young keepers. Again I’m simplifying it here. Hindsight is great but I think we should’ve sold Divock post CL win, Nat a couple of seasons back and probably more examples…. I know it’s easy to say that now
Providing Kelleher was willing to stay, I feel it would have been an unnecessary gamble for us to take replacing him. Alisson is quite injury prone for a GK, so I think it's important we have a PL standard keeper in reserve and that's not easy to find. It's not like years ago when sub keepers were just that, someone to sit on your bench every week. If Kelleher was starring for another PL right now and his replacement cost us points in the next few weeks, we'd all be asking a lot of questions and no doubt FSG thread would be bumped.
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He'll be excellent. And we wont have to worry about him kicking the ball to the opposition or taking too long to kick. And knowing that hes going to get a good amount of games in the league instead of a couple in some lower comp will give him a confidence boost. He'll be great.
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I know I am vastly simplifying things but here’s my thoughts. There’s two aspects for me - Kelleher as a player would’ve benefited from the move because he doesn’t get better without games. I think Nat Philips is a good example of not moving at the right time and having your career stagnate. I would say Kelleher has been actively poor in the games he has played recently and I’m not sure is it a lack of games or maybe he isn’t as good as we thought.
Aspect 2 is the club - I think we could’ve cashed in on him post quadruple attempt season. I am in no way advocating Adrien but rather use half the Kelleher money to buy what is a back up GK - go for an old pro as we have the world of young keepers. Again I’m simplifying it here. Hindsight is great but I think we should’ve sold Divock post CL win, Nat a couple of seasons back and probably more examples…. I know it’s easy to say that nowLast edited by Irishnev; 27-11-23, 07:11 PM.
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The money we got for him would have be miniscule in comparison of dropping out of the top 4 and cups if we had Adrian in goal for anying length of time.Originally posted by Irishnev View PostHe’s played about 25 games in his career to date so it’s really hard to know how good he is/or not. He has looked like he is regressing based on his recent outings, remember the league game vs Southampton at the end of the season. Another example of where we dropped the ball by not selling him when his stock was high post League Cup winning season and we could’ve cashed in….
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Bit early to be claiming this Nev. This is the exact situation for why we did keep him, so let's see if it pays off.Originally posted by Irishnev View PostHe’s played about 25 games in his career to date so it’s really hard to know how good he is/or not. He has looked like he is regressing based on his recent outings, remember the league game vs Southampton at the end of the season. Another example of where we dropped the ball by not selling him when his stock was high post League Cup winning season and we could’ve cashed in….
And the reality is if we did cash in, we wouldn't have got anywhere near his worth, so when you factor in having to buy a replacement, I'm not sure how we'd have come out much better off.
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He’s played about 25 games in his career to date so it’s really hard to know how good he is/or not. He has looked like he is regressing based on his recent outings, remember the league game vs Southampton at the end of the season. Another example of where we dropped the ball by not selling him when his stock was high post League Cup winning season and we could’ve cashed in….Originally posted by Rich View PostHe's let a few shots go through him this season. If he does get a run of games hopefully it's the Kelleher from 2 seasons ago we see.
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TBF, it's a decent run of fixtures for him to get some match sharpness before United game in December.
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Kelleher has great distribution but in terms of shot stopping and one-on-ones, Alisson is in a league of his own (not just above Kelleher, but above every keeper in the league). However long he is out for we will miss him. Lets just hope we can get the results we need.
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He's had more than a couple of dodgy moment in the league cup games.
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