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    Pains me to say this as I’ve always been a massive fan of Harvey but I’m not sure if he’s going to make it here anymore. While he’s had an impact off the bench every start he’s had he just doesn’t take advantage. And while some have come in weaker teams he’s still not shown enough. And it’s not really just this season.

    I don’t know where he fits in. Not enough pace for the wide role and probably not physically strong enough for a central role when it comes to the defensive side especially.

    Maybe he can play the impact sub role if he’s happy but with the quality needed to keep winning at the top level I don’t think he’s got it now. He’s still young but how much better is he now than he was 2 years ago? Is he still progressing enough? I want him to make it but I’m starting to change my thoughts on him.

    And when you see links to someone like Morgan Rogers who’s a year older but might fit better and is able to play the wide and central role more effectively the age thing starts to go out the window. He’s not really a young player and should be further along in his development. Klopp seemed to have the same issues, where does he fit into the team.

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      It’s clear he’s never going to be a first 11 player under Slot. He wants mega-presser in the most advanced midfield position, it’s why he loves Dom. Harvey doesn’t have the pace to play that game even though he has the engine.

      And he’s not a forward.

      His stock is high, it might be worth cashing in on him even though it’ll be a shame him going.
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        Originally posted by Rich View Post
        It’s clear he’s never going to be a first 11 player under Slot. He wants mega-presser in the most advanced midfield position, it’s why he loves Dom. Harvey doesn’t have the pace to play that game even though he has the engine.

        And he’s not a forward.

        His stock is high, it might be worth cashing in on him even though it’ll be a shame him going.

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          think he'll do really well but sadly i dont think it'll be here

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            Originally posted by ric.williams View Post
            think he'll do really well but sadly i dont think it'll be here

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              Originally posted by peterbread View Post
              Pains me to say this as I’ve always been a massive fan of Harvey but I’m not sure if he’s going to make it here anymore. While he’s had an impact off the bench every start he’s had he just doesn’t take advantage. And while some have come in weaker teams he’s still not shown enough. And it’s not really just this season.
              That last bit is inaccurate. He was first choice in Klopp's team last year on merrit, and was outperforming Henderson the previous year. I think he had the bad injury the year before . He was Blackburns player if the year there at 17.

              He has played less than 200 minutes in 14 league games this season. He hasnt really been given a chance until today, and he stacked the team with fringe players.

              He has been better in the champions league too, playing in stronger sides.

              He may not be suited to a Slot team, but I dont think he has been given a chance really. There have been multiple games where Dom has been way off and Elliott would have been a good plan b, but Slot has chosen to go a different way.

              I think he is one of two players who can put dangerous balls into the box, and Trent is leaving. If Elliott goes I think this a priority for us (maybe Macca could do this in a more advanced role).
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                Originally posted by Charly View Post
                That last bit is inaccurate. He was first choice in Klopp's team last year on merrit, and was outperforming Henderson the previous year. I think he had the bad injury the year before . He was Blackburns player if the year there at 17.

                He has played less than 200 minutes in 14 league games this season. He hasnt really been given a chance until today, and he stacked the team with fringe players.

                He has been better in the champions league too, playing in stronger sides.

                He may not be suited to a Slot team, but I dont think he has been given a chance really. There have been multiple games where Dom has been way off and Elliott would have been a good plan b, but Slot has chosen to go a different way.

                I think he is one of two players who can put dangerous balls into the box, and Trent is leaving. If Elliott goes I think this a priority for us (maybe Macca could do this in a more advanced role).
                Elliott was only a 1st choice in cup competitions last season. He only started regularly in the league in the last month of the season, after the wheels had come off our title challenge. He made 11 starts in the PL last season, 5 of them coming in our last 6 PL games.
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                  Originally posted by Mark79 View Post
                  Elliott was only a 1st choice in cup competitions last season. He only started regularly in the league in the last month of the season, after the wheels had come off our title challenge. He made 11 starts in the PL last season, 5 of them coming in our last 6 PL games.
                  And got 6 assists and 3 goals. How did that compare to Dom and Macca?
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                    Originally posted by Charly View Post
                    And got 6 assists and 3 goals. How did that compare to Dom and Macca?
                    5 assists and 1 goal in that run of games.

                    I'm pointing out he wasn't a first choice last season, what's comparative output with Dom and Macca got to do with it?
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                      Originally posted by Mark79 View Post
                      5 assists and 1 goal in that run of games.



                      I'm pointing out he wasn't a first choice last season, what's comparative output with Dom and Macca got to do with it?
                      He ended tbe season as first choice, and was there on merit which was my original point.
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                        Just not set up for him to flourish, clearly got talent, played some great little one-twos and others just don't seem to be on the same wavelength tbh. Lots of these players are still in default Klopp mode when going forward.

                        Has a tendency to go missing for large portions of the game too, which you just cant afford to have in our side.

                        Think he'll definitely be off
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                          Good player but I just don't see anywhere in the team where he could be a starter. For the sake of his own career he needs to instigate a move this summer otherwise he'll stagnate.
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                            Originally posted by Harv View Post
                            Has a tendency to go missing for large portions of the game too, which you just cant afford to have in our side.
                            Did he do that last season?

                            He certainly turned up against PSG

                            Sunday was his first Premier League start of the season. He has made 3 starts in the cups, and 1 in the Champions League (where he managed 3 goals), where I thought he played much better amongst 1st teamers.

                            Remember he is only just 22. I think there is so much potential there, but I accept Slot just doesnt rate him for whatever reason. I think he has a fantastic eye for a final ball in a cluttered box which the rest of our midfield struggle against sometimes. I would have though he is a fantastic plan B for those situations, but Slot always prefers Jones.

                            But 3 goals and one assist in 5 starts is still pretty good.
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                              He's a good player who hasn't had much game time, he's going to be rusty, he was also coming in to a completely rotated midfield. I think he will still be here next season but he needs more game time and I think his future beyond next season will depend on how we change the forward line next season.
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                                A goal & assist & was still full of running at the death. Keep
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