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I think Klopp was the General, front line, and able to inspire his troops up to his level. Slot seems to be the master tactician in the background, orchestrating
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Originally posted by Norbs View PostGood job you didn't say that after the game, I said the same (specifically the word naive) and didn't go down well on here
But it's spot on. Mourinho wasn't looking for a goal, he was content to play out a bore draw. We could've taken a point, not been so gung-ho against Palace and won the league. Rodgers planning was poor
What was so impressive about our win on Sunday was how adaptable Slot has made this team - we switched from playing super aggressively, on the front foot and completely dominating Man City to a much more reserved way without relinquishing control of the game.
Quite often with Klopp we were guilty of not playing more conservatively when we were a goal or two up - you never felt confident that we wouldn’t concede (apart from the precovid part of the 19/20 season)
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Good job you didn't say that after the game, I said the same (specifically the word naive) and didn't go down well on hereOriginally posted by rudedog View PostIt definitely wasn’t intentional
It was just an example of Rodger’s tactical naivety - a game we didnt need to win but Rodger’s went looking for a statement result and it played straight into Mourinho’s hands.
But it's spot on. Mourinho wasn't looking for a goal, he was content to play out a bore draw. We could've taken a point, not been so gung-ho against Palace and won the league. Rodgers planning was poor
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It definitely wasn’t intentionalOriginally posted by Corndog View PostThat wasn’t the intention though.
That season, Gerrard would split the CBs and normally have them closer to him on either side. It didn’t happen on that occasion and bad luck meant the mistake was punished with a goal conceded.
Same way Klopp used to have Kehl do it very successfully for Dortmund
It was just an example of Rodger’s tactical naivety - a game we didnt need to win but Rodger’s went looking for a statement result and it played straight into Mourinho’s hands.
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That wasn’t the intention though.Originally posted by rudedog View PostThere shouldn’t really ever be a situation where your aging CDM is last man though. We didn’t even need to win that game, just not lose.
That season, Gerrard would split the CBs and normally have them closer to him on either side. It didn’t happen on that occasion and bad luck meant the mistake was punished with a goal conceded.
Same way Klopp used to have Kehl do it very successfully for Dortmund
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Rodgers only put him deeper because his pace was gone. It was a good move that definitely contributed to the team that went so close to the title.Originally posted by Charly View PostGerrard was best on the right wing and behind Torres, imho. I think you could have slotted him in at false 9, in place of Gakpo... or even Salah (systemwise)
Rodgers made the mistake of putting him at DM, to which he was ill suited, imho
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It’s typical Dutch total football. The best way to play the game imo.Originally posted by rudedog View PostWas interesting to see him and Grav rotating at times, when Grav got forward, Dom dropped back. The same thing happened with the full backs, whenever they we out of position, there was always another player looking to drop in to cover. This has got to be the biggest reason we seem so much more stable in defence, we just aren’t seeing those gaping holes that were our Achilles heel previously.
Slots system is like a hybrid of Klopps gegenpress and Rafas crushing machine
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Gerrard was best on the right wing and behind Torres, imho. I think you could have slotted him in at false 9, in place of Gakpo... or even Salah (systemwise)
Rodgers made the mistake of putting him at DM, to which he was ill suited, imho
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I like that analogy!! I was discussing summat like that last month with friends in the pub & we were saying that some of the players Rafa had, would be perfect in this squad for Slot... not any of them mentioned Gerrard either.Originally posted by rudedog View PostWas interesting to see him and Grav rotating at times, when Grav got forward, Dom dropped back. The same thing happened with the full backs, whenever they we out of position, there was always another player looking to drop in to cover. This has got to be the biggest reason we seem so much more stable in defence, we just aren’t seeing those gaping holes that were our Achilles heel previously.
Slots system is like a hybrid of Klopps gegenpress and Rafas crushing machine
Don't get me wrong, I'm sure Slot wouldn't mind a Gerrard in there but we felt that the likes of Hamann, Alonso and Mascherano along with John Arne Riise would complement Slot's tactics whereas Gerrard would be constrainted by those tactics as he was a marauder in that midfield.
I'm sure Slot & Klopp would have adjusted their tactics to accommodate a player like Gerrard but would have it been to the detriment of the team?
Is that what happened to Rodgers team?
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Was interesting to see him and Grav rotating at times, when Grav got forward, Dom dropped back. The same thing happened with the full backs, whenever they we out of position, there was always another player looking to drop in to cover. This has got to be the biggest reason we seem so much more stable in defence, we just aren’t seeing those gaping holes that were our Achilles heel previously.
Slots system is like a hybrid of Klopps gegenpress and Rafas crushing machine
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