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Looks like Kenneth and Jerkins have their new target in sights..."When a man insults my country I insult him, by taking his woman" Tony Yeboah
"looking through your posts since 2007 and what you have consistently written about my football team I have come to the conclusion that if you had 1 more brain cell you would be a plant .. your father was a hamster and your mother smells of elder berries, I fart in your general direction ..." Nicey
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Originally posted by Norbs View PostReally? You havent mentioned it before
"When a man insults my country I insult him, by taking his woman" Tony Yeboah
"looking through your posts since 2007 and what you have consistently written about my football team I have come to the conclusion that if you had 1 more brain cell you would be a plant .. your father was a hamster and your mother smells of elder berries, I fart in your general direction ..." Nicey
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Including successful passes to Isak that were totally over hit, god knows how Isak managed to control them and get a shot off. It didn't show a couple of awful passes, including one aimed at Mo when we had an overload that barely made it half way before it was intercepted. Lots a neat short passes that keep the ball moving are welcome, but he needs to be more effective than that. It was a 7/10 Harvey Elliott performance and we didn't pay £125m for that. Still a lot to do to establish his worth.Originally posted by Mark79 View Post27 successful passes from 32 attempted - 84%
There's at least 2 of the uncompleted passes included in the clip above.Trey Nyoni: countdown to stardom-2 years1year0.5 years
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Well, £116m inclusive of add ons.Originally posted by Kenneth View PostIncluding successful passes to Isak that were totally over hit, god knows how Isak managed to control them and get a shot off. It didn't show a couple of awful passes, including one aimed at Mo when we had an overload that barely made it half way before it was intercepted. Lots a neat short passes that keep the ball moving are welcome, but he needs to be more effective than that. It was a 7/10 Harvey Elliott performance and we didn't pay £125m for that. Still a lot to do to establish his worth.
But yes it was 7/10. As I said, a step in the right direction.
Certainly not a performance that calls for taking out of the staring XI.
Yes more to to do, but he's only been here 5 minutes..
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He’s played 5 games. He’s 22.
Look at Gravenberch. Look at players like Henry, Bergkamp. Sometimes it takes more than 5 games to show. And there is more than enough evidence that he’s got the talent his timing on the ball ability to play a pass even in the clip above shows that he is far better than Elliot.Modifying post.
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Fully agreed.Originally posted by Buzzo View PostHe’s played 5 games. He’s 22.
Look at Gravenberch. Look at players like Henry, Bergkamp. Sometimes it takes more than 5 games to show. And there is more than enough evidence that he’s got the talent his timing on the ball ability to play a pass even in the clip above shows that he is far better than Elliot.
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Pffft, stats and video evidence don't mean anything.Originally posted by Buzzo View PostWatching that clip and you can see how good he is. No e of the getting bullied off the ball that has been mentioned. Good and incisive in possession. Created chances.
He’ll get better and better for sure.If we are all only happy when we are really winning in the end, when your race finishes, what life would that be?
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Originally posted by Buzzo View PostHe’s played 5 games. He’s 22.
Look at Gravenberch. Look at players like Henry, Bergkamp. Sometimes it takes more than 5 games to show. And there is more than enough evidence that he’s got the talent his timing on the ball ability to play a pass even in the clip above shows that he is far better than Elliot.
And that is pretty much it.
New club, new teammates new country and playing in a position that requires a great understanding with those around him.
His price tag does not matter a jot. He needs time on the pitch to get up to speed with the league and with his own team and he is not going to get that on the bench.
There are plenty of examples of big money signings coming into teams and hitting the ground running, but far more examples of those that needed time to get up to speed and then went on to be brilliant for their teams.
You named a few Arsenal players as examples. Pires would be another one that took time to settle, that was written off after six or seven games and then went on to be amazing.
Closer to home we have Gravenberch, Henderson, Robertson and Wijnaldum that were being written off early in their LFC careers.
Wirtz, for me, is a player that has too much talent and far too high a work rate on and off the pitch for him to not come good in time.I don't hate people. I just feel better when they aren't around.
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