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If this is the case (That we have accepted a deal for him and he was due to fly out today) I don't understand why Rodgers said he will be here when the window closes.
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Get the feeling he is definitely going and it's just a matter of time before the deal gets completedLiverpool transfer news: Lucas Leiva move to Besiktas in doubt
Brazilian midfielder had expected to leave Anfield for Turkey but was surprised to find himself in the starting XI at Arsenal
By Jason Burt, Chief Football Correspondent
10:38AM BST 25 Aug 2015
Liverpool fans – and Lucas Leiva himself – were not the only ones surprised to see the Brazilian midfielder included in the starting line-up for Monday’s night’s Premier League match away to Arsenal.
Besiktas were also shocked with the officials in London to seal Lucas’ move and return to the Turkish club with him today. Lucas was due to be on a flight to Istanbul this morning with his transfer – expected to be on a initial loan with an option to sign permanently – now in doubt.
Besiktas are still hopeful it will go through. They believed they had reached an agreement with Liverpool and Lucas at the end of last week. Having not featured in the first two matches for his club this season Lucas did not expect to be involved – never mind start – at the Emirates.
Besiktas were made aware in advance that Lucas had been selected to face Arsenal and remain hopeful that a deal will go through although there was further confusion after Brendan Rodgers post-match comments when he said the 28-year-old would continue at Liverpool and not be sold.
Lucas played 76 minutes against Arsenal in an impressive performance and appeared to wave his goodbyes to the travelling supporters when he was substituted.
But when asked whether Lucas would be a Liverpool player when the window closes Rodgers said: “yes”. He added: “Lucas is our best defensive midfield player we have. There are games in which I will pay three midfield players and not always want a specific defensive one.
“But when we do need that, he's the best that we have. He came in at Arsenal and did a great job, and is very much part of what we want to do.
“Of course, every player wants to play every minute of every game and you can never guarantee that as a manager.
“But he is certainly very important to what we want to do, and is highly respected by myself, the coaching staff and the players.”
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/foo...-in-doubt.html
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He should stay, going by Godgers comments in the last 24 hours he'll play most of the big aways which is basically all of our aways till December, plus theres 6 Europa games he'll start (if he's not playing all the lesser league games) and League Cup so he wont be that short of appearances. Rodgers doesnt like to mess around too much when the team is playing well either so he might even stay in for the lesser games. Certainly shouldnt be loaning him out anyway, if he wants to go his agent can go and convince someone to ****ing pay for him!
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Sometimes I wonder how football clubs are run but there seems to have been a lack of communication between manager, player, agent and the clubs admin in this instance.
I find it hard to believe Rodgers would let Lucas go.
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Liverpool transfer news: Lucas Leiva move to Besiktas in doubt
Brazilian midfielder had expected to leave Anfield for Turkey but was surprised to find himself in the starting XI at Arsenal
Liverpool fans – and Lucas Leiva himself – were not the only ones surprised to see the Brazilian midfielder included in the starting line-up for Monday’s night’s Premier League match away to Arsenal.
Besiktas were also shocked with the officials in London to seal Lucas’ move and return to the Turkish club with him today. Lucas was due to be on a flight to Istanbul this morning with his transfer – expected to be on a initial loan with an option to sign permanently – now in doubt.
Besiktas are still hopeful it will go through. They believed they had reached an agreement with Liverpool and Lucas at the end of last week. Having not featured in the first two matches for his club this season Lucas did not expect to be involved – never mind start – at the Emirates.
Besiktas were made aware in advance that Lucas had been selected to face Arsenal and remain hopeful that a deal will go through although there was further confusion after Brendan Rodgers post-match comments when he said the 28-year-old would continue at Liverpool and not be sold.
Lucas played 76 minutes against Arsenal in an impressive performance and appeared to wave his goodbyes to the travelling supporters when he was substituted.
But when asked whether Lucas would be a Liverpool player when the window closes Rodgers said: “yes”. He added: “Lucas is our best defensive midfield player we have.
There are games in which I will pay three midfield players and not always want a specific defensive one.
“But when we do need that, he's the best that we have. He came in at Arsenal and did a great job, and is very much part of what we want to do.
“Of course, every player wants to play every minute of every game and you can never guarantee that as a manager.
“But he is certainly very important to what we want to do, and is highly respected by myself, the coaching staff and the players.”
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Don't get me wrong, so do I. But I can understand what Rodgers looks like he's trying to achieve...even if I don't agree with it.Originally posted by Rich View PostI'd argue that having a proper defensive midfielder on the pitch even against the weaker teams at Anfield provides balance and cohesion which helps with the team's performance levels.
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Originally posted by kingfunk View PostMy take on BR's comments are: Rodgers would like him to stay, Lucas wants to play more games but our set up means we don't always play with a DM, probably only against uber offensive teams. Lucas is highly respected and has always been a pro thus Rodgers is not going to decline him the opportunity to get more games elsewhere. So the ball is in Lucas's court. Will be a shame if he decides to go because he is perfect for our DM requirements.
He's off ... he really has become quite Marginalized which for a player who 28 and still has a lot to contribute is not a great situation, he'll go for sure, good luck to him, we'll miss him, but someone will take his place
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Originally posted by Shaggy View PostIf he wants to leave there's nothing we can do but he shouldn't have been put in this position in the first place IMO. Make him feel wanted. I'd be playing him in pretty much all the away games. I can understand going another way with the midfield set-up for home games, but I thought he was terrific again tonight before he understandably tired. Our best performances last season came with him in the side (and the back 3) and I wouldn't be packing him off yet. Really hope he stays.
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I'd argue that having a proper defensive midfielder on the pitch even against the weaker teams at Anfield provides balance and cohesion which helps with the team's performance levels.
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Originally posted by kingfunk View PostMy take on BR's comments are: Rodgers would like him to stay, Lucas wants to play more games but our set up means we don't always play with a DM, probably only against uber offensive teams. Lucas is highly respected and has always been a pro thus Rodgers is not going to decline him the opportunity to get more games elsewhere. So the ball is in Lucas's court. Will be a shame if he decides to go because he is perfect for our DM requirements.
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Loved the way he turned his career around with us
Be delighted if he stays - nothing but best wishes if he goes
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