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Surely it's the club's decision to loan Lucas out and the manager has no say in the matter?
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God that's as hard to read as an Elvoz post, but I couldn't be arsed changing it.
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It seems pretty simple IMO. Allen is able (in Brendan's eyes) to play any of the 3 midfield positions in our formation therefore he's worth keeping, whereas Lucas can only play the holding role and is limited (in Brendan's eyes) in how he plays it.
I disagree and will be sorry to see Lucas go, but it's up to Rodgers to do things his way and I don't see it as any more than a footballing decision that he's paid to make.
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Allen was offered a new long term contract just last season I think, can't see him being sold in the near future. IMO, there is place for both of them if Brendan uses rotation, but the way we are starting i have a major concern that he doesn't know how to manage a big squad and rotate it.Originally posted by Lee View PostMate please don't feel I'm just picking you up on this but you're the most recent person to make this comment.
What if we've had no offers for Allen? It's difficult to move someone on if there's no interest in the player.
Personally I would also keep Lucas over Allen, but it's not an either / or situation and perhaps Allen is happy to accept a squad role and Lucas isn't.
It's a shame if Lucas goes but if Rodgers doesn't see him as part of his plans then that's it I guess.
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well mate, good couple of points... first rebuttal: have you considered the stance from the club: "LFC are open to offers in regard to Lucas..."Originally posted by Lee View PostMate please don't feel I'm just picking you up on this but you're the most recent person to make this comment.
What if we've had no offers for Allen? It's difficult to move someone on if there's no interest in the player.
Personally I would also keep Lucas over Allen, but it's not an either / or situation and perhaps Allen is happy to accept a squad role and Lucas isn't.
It's a shame if Lucas goes but if Rodgers doesn't see him as part of his plans then that's it I guess.
As opposed to "LFC are open to offers in regard to Allen?"
I know which one has been touted officially/unofficially more often than the other (hardly any in regard to the later-er - ie. Allen), in light of last season to the present (heck even running for a few years now me thinks).
second rebuttal: Allen happy to be a squad player as opposed to Lucas? I don't believe that, Lucas has been here far long enough and would have made noise about this long before, no i don't think this is the factor (consider the fact that he hasn't even made the bench or even given a sniff or minutes this season)...Last edited by Myo; 21-08-15, 12:46 PM.
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Nail on the head I'd say.Originally posted by Lee View PostMate please don't feel I'm just picking you up on this but you're the most recent person to make this comment.
What if we've had no offers for Allen? It's difficult to move someone on if there's no interest in the player.
Personally I would also keep Lucas over Allen, but it's not an either / or situation and perhaps Allen is happy to accept a squad role and Lucas isn't.
It's a shame if Lucas goes but if Rodgers doesn't see him as part of his plans then that's it I guess.
It's hard to imagine someone putting a bid in for Allen innit! They'd want to see him play surely
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Mate please don't feel I'm just picking you up on this but you're the most recent person to make this comment.Originally posted by Myo View PostSeriousness though, consider Bren's love child allen being crook and all, having a similar injury record, should he not be off before lucas????
What if we've had no offers for Allen? It's difficult to move someone on if there's no interest in the player.
Personally I would also keep Lucas over Allen, but it's not an either / or situation and perhaps Allen is happy to accept a squad role and Lucas isn't.
It's a shame if Lucas goes but if Rodgers doesn't see him as part of his plans then that's it I guess.
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Originally posted by kingfunk View PostFeel really sorry for Lucas, always gave everything, got abused by 'fans' at the start yet he became a favourite and remained one of the most loyal hard working players. Always a good professional and he loves the city. Now the damn *******s are going to throw him to the dogs.
#prayforlucas

Bob, sometimes you are too rational for your own good...put a sock in it...Originally posted by BobTheCharmer View PostThe lad gets fit, naturally takes a few games to get up to speed, starts to be effective and then gets injured. With each injury he returns slower than before. He is an absolute top bloke by the looks of it and if he wants to be part of the squad I'd keep him. Yet I feel he wants games as he has missed so many. A slower paced league will suit him nicely. What's the problem?

Seriousness though, consider Bren's love child allen being crook and all, having a similar injury record, should he not be off before lucas????
seriously pissed with this move...
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The lad gets fit, naturally takes a few games to get up to speed, starts to be effective and then gets injured. With each injury he returns slower than before. He is an absolute top bloke by the looks of it and if he wants to be part of the squad I'd keep him. Yet I feel he wants games as he has missed so many. A slower paced league will suit him nicely. What's the problem?Originally posted by Saveloy View PostJoking aside though, he's not a 'qualified crock'.
We should be doing a lot better than a loan. If we can't, he should stay.
(he should stay anyway, but that seems to be a moot point)
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I wont lie, that thought did cross my mindOriginally posted by fidget View PostAt least if he goes on loan Klopp can recall him when this dickhead gets sacked
Although I refrain from name calling
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Feel really sorry for Lucas, always gave everything, got abused by 'fans' at the start yet he became a favourite and remained one of the most loyal hard working players. Always a good professional and he loves the city. Now the damn *******s are going to throw him to the dogs.
#prayforlucas
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The least funny thing on twitter and given the competition that is quite an accomplishment.
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