Hodgson

[little dave hedgehog]

LMA manager of the year past winners:

1994 IRL ! Joe Kinnear Wimbledon
1995 ENG ! Frank Clark Nottingham Forest
1996 ENG ! Peter Reid Sunderland
1997 NIR ! Danny Wilson Barnsley
1998 ENG ! Dave Jones Southampton
1999 SCO ! Alex Ferguson Manchester United
2000 ENG ! Alan Curbishley Charlton Athletic
2001 SCO ! George Burley Ipswich Town
2002 FRA ! Arsène Wenger Arsenal
2003 SCO ! David Moyes Everton
2004 FRA ! Arsène Wenger Arsenal
2005 SCO ! David Moyes Everton
2006 ENG ! Steve Coppell Reading
2007 ENG ! Steve Coppell Reading
2008 SCO ! Alex Ferguson Manchester United
2009 SCO ! David Moyes Everton
2010 ENG ! Roy Hodgson Fulham

LMAO!!!! Did anyone bar Ferguson in 99 (treble) and Wenger (double, invincibles 2004?) win a freaking trophy??


What a joke of an award. Old Boys Network.

i had no idea danny wilson was that old.

[RedReet]

Great goal from Messi there, so good to be able to enjoy football again.

[RedReet]

What a load of balls...

Fan power today no solution for Liverpool tomorrow

The collective sigh of relief I`m hearing from Liverpool fans after Roy Hodgson`s departure is also celebratory: "we got what we wanted, we didn’t like the manager, we got rid of him and we got Dalglish back!”. Yes, this outcome reflects the power of the fans, the influence of the Kop. I have just left Liverpool after a few days there and the two questions most people asked me were: `when is roy going to be sacked?` and` is Rafa returning soon?` Not a single person- and I spoke to dozens over a few late nights in pubs around the city- asked about the long term strategy of the club, the functioning of the academy, the owners` vision (or lack of it).

The fans I spoke to are only interested in short-termism and Make their conclusions based on what they see on the pitch and hearsay - and there is plenty of that in Liverpool. That is their nature. But they don’t know how the players are, their mental state, their physical state, why technical decisions are taken, the finances of the club, the relationship between the board and the manager, or the manager and the players. So their views are based on a limited amount of information. Based on that they decided that Roy had to be sacked.


For the record, I personally think that some players did not trust his methods, that his authority was diminishing in the changing room and the pressure from the Kop made leaving the only positive outcome. The board followed the demands of the fans even though Comolli was not convinced sacking Roy at this moment was the solution and, as I have been told, he did not think in the first instance that appointing either Dalglish or Carragher as player manager (something that was also discussed) was ideal either. Finally he agreed with everybody else that there was no way out for Roy and ceded to the owners.


But NESV knew from day one that Hodgson was an appointment that came about as a consequence of Purslow and Broughton`s preparations for selling the club. They wanted to Anglicise Liverpool, bring in a steady hand: one that made the club look solid and stable. Once that was accomplished, there was no point in keeping Roy in the long term. So the plan was to make him stay all season, decide who the new manager would be and start working with him now on new signings and the next steps to take regarding the squad. Instead we have a new captain at the helm of the ship due to the pressure from the fans, never interested completely in the long term view. They want results right now - that is also logical and understandable.

I know I have touched on all this in the past, but my last few days in Liverpool have left me with the same conclusions that I drew on previous visits. The power of the Liverpool fans is far superior to the power of fans at Barcelona, Madrid, Milan, Inter, Bayern, Manchester United, Arsenal, clubs that most of us will agree are decently run. Is this a good thing or a bad thing? I have the impression the weaker the circumstances at the club, the stronger the influence of the fans- and that cannot be good. Maybe the club could have pointed out behind the scenes that Roy was not there for the long term, trying to calm things down using a mix of politics and some well placed sources. But would that have placated the fans once they had already decided things had to change as soon as possible? Would they have wanted to hear what else was in store for the coming months? Will they be happy now they realize their power? Or will they want to continue determining the line being pursued by the club? Power is addictive. Fans wanted somebody`s head now and an opportunity to paint the club with legendary colours again; in search of solutions too many are looking to the past (what they know best, unable to decipher the future and without much knowledge of the present). That is again their nature.


But should those running the club follow their wishes?


PS: Kenny says he learnt a lot from talking to Rafa Benitez and from having been given a job at the academy by the Spanish manager. So if things go well, the club will owe Benitez a beer or two for having reintroduced Dalglish to Premier League life in the present day. Good luck, King kenny

http://www.guillembalague.com/blog_desp.php?titulo=Fan%20power%20today%20no%20solution%20for%20Liverpool%20tomorrow&id=542

[little dave hedgehog]

i think it's entirely possible he could have learnt something from benitez. not sure what kind of tactical mastermind kenny is, but he can put together a good team with a lot of belief and the bottle to attack. obviously he never had the chance to manage in europe with us, but his record with newcastle was poor. but i could certainly see benitez giving kenny some pointers. and vice versa.

[sean_lfc]

i think it's entirely possible he could have learnt something from benitez. not sure what kind of tactical mastermind kenny is, but he can put together a good team with a lot of belief and the bottle to attack. obviously he never had the chance to manage in europe with us, but his record with newcastle was poor. but i could certainly see benitez giving kenny some pointers. and vice versa.

Fully agree. And I think two great minds met in those two, with a a common ground, namely and untainted love for Liverpool FC and its supporters.

[DannyMan2006]

Roy Hodgson's managerial career
Team From To Games Won Lost Drawn
Liverpool 01-07-2010 08-01-2011 31 13 9 9
Fulham 30-12-2007 01-07-2010 128 50 46 32
Udinese 21-06-2001 10-12-2001 17 7 5 5
Blackburn 01-06-1997 21-11-1998 62 22 22 18
Bristol C 03-01-1982 30-04-1982 20 3 12 5
defo should of never been given the job in the first place adiós bodge take your **** elsewhere

I hoped he'd do well. I tried to convince myself Roy could get it right. But after seeing Roys statistics as a manager when it started to go wrong, I had to wonder how the hell he got the job in the first place.

[sean_lfc]

I hoped he'd do well. I tried to convince myself Roy could get it right. But after seeing Roys statistics as a manager when it started to go wrong, I had to wonder how the hell he got the job in the first place.

Someone who appointed him might have been encouraged and disillusioned by others who might have seen beyond what his realistic capabilities were and had turned out to be. However, this is all conjecture on my part.

[TheElephantMan]

We don't want you back!!!

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[Kronenburg1892]

[Fivex]

Mike facking Kelly can **** off as well.

[Tezza1974]

I know he's gone now but this is brilliant

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[Colonel Angus]

You'll never believe who wrote this:

Never go back? Really? Listen to his words. Look closely into his heart. Check his unchanged postcode. Kenny Dalglish has never really been away from Liverpool.

Next month sees the 20th anniversary of Dalglish’s shock resignation at Anfield, a JFK moment often recalled and debated when those of a red persuasion gather for a stroll down memory lane. Those with an understanding of events in 1991, and an appreciation of his emotions since, know that Dalglish has unfinished business with Liverpool.

Even when he was on a Florida beach, recovering from his stress-induced exit from Liverpool, he was thinking of the club he loved, still loves. He wanted to come back then and discrete contact was made before the club appointed Graeme Souness.

Even when he was at Blackburn Rovers, bringing them the title in 1995, he was twice approached about returning to Anfield.

When the board’s interest suddenly, inexplicably cooled, Dalglish’s mood was one of frustration, bordering on anger.

Even in his subsequent wanderings, notably unsuccessful spells at Newcastle United and Celtic, Liverpool have remained in Dalglish’s heart. Man and club have been through so much together, so many seismic events on and off the field. They have shared the triumphs and walked through the storms, forging an unbreakable bond.

Dalglish’s critics carp about his letting Liverpool down in 1991, of the way he walked out after that epic 4-4 draw at Goodison Park.

People looked at his drained demeanour when Tony Cottee and Everton kept fighting back. They speculated about a dressing-room rift with Peter Beardsley.

In truth, the seeds for Dalglish’s departure were sown in 1989, during Hillsborough, as he now understands and admits. The pressure of holding a grieving club and community together inevitably took its toll, particularly on a man always who has always internalised his emotions.

When discussing those distressing times for a book in 1996, Dalglish opened up only partially. It took another 14 years before he could fully articulate his feelings, including his unstinting demand for a proper inquiry into the authorities’ mistakes at Hillsborough.

No wonder the Kop sings his name. And could he play? Yes. And could he manage? Yes. Three titles and three Manager of the Year crowns came his way at Anfield. And does he want to rescue Liverpool in their hour of need? Yes.

The most pertinent question is what happens in the summer. Liverpool stressed the “interim” nature of his appointment but the Kop and King Kenny will have different ideas.

His desire for the job long term is hardly a revelation. Dalglish’s annoyance at his brusque treatment by the then chairman, Martin Broughton, in the wake of Rafa Benitez’s sacking was palpable. Snubbed by the club, a lesser man than Dalglish might have walked away from his ambassadorial and Academy duties. Dalglish bit his tongue and stayed on. His patience and diplomacy has been rewarded.

The sceptics will ridicule his return, claiming that he lacks either knowledge of the modern game or awareness of Liverpool’s flaws.

Nonsense. He has been completely cognisant of the team’s flaws for some time, preceding Roy Hodgson’s brief reign.

If Dalglish’s return looked written in the stars, then there are serious issues to be addressed, beginning with who focuses on player recruitment in the January transfer window? Fenway Sports Group have appointed Damien Comolli as director of football strategy, charged with rejuvenating the squad and he has been looking at potential targets. It’s his job.

Yet earlier in the season, Dalglish was out scouting players for Hodgson. Having watched most of the team’s games this season, and having spent time at the Academy, Dalglish is well-placed to realise where Liverpool need immediate fortifying.

An interesting internal debate could revolve around the medical room. If there is a suggestion from the doctors and physios that Steven Gerrard should start on the bench, “managing” his groin/hamstring/back, Dalglish’s reaction to somebody denying him his captain could be lively.

If the lines of communication must be kept open internally, Dalglish must also be aware of the media’s needs. He cannot be gruff with TV reporters, not least because one of those wielding a microphone could be his daughter Kelly. His twitter account might need to fall fallow for a while. But King Kenny’s back and Anfield immediately feels a stronger, more unified place.

Henry Winter

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/liverpool/8247931/Kenny-Dalglish-is-just-the-right-man-to-rescue-Liverpool-in-their-hour-of-need.html

[Roboklopp]

Was gonna mention that about Rafa and KK myself yesterday, but decided against it cos it'd only upset some, but it wouldn't surprise me if the 2 had an informal covert talk or 2.

[wavydavy]

Good old Micky Quinn just stuck it to some NOTW hack on TSport. He said they "all love 'im down here(London) for some reason" and that " people down here are missing out on most of it" or words to that effect. Quoted all the horrible stats one by one. Made the journo look a right tit. When the journo triumphantly wheeled out the LMA Manager of the Year as his trump card Quinny sneered and asked how on earth Ancelotti could win the double and not get it? He was ace and does a great job of shouting our corner down there amongst the idiots on TSport.

[Reece]

Yeah it's quite good having Quinny back us against all the other numpties on there. Don't agree with his views on Rafa mind, but that's another issue.