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    Great attitude isn't it. I think we're gonna like him. He's never gonna be a Gerrard but every team needs someone like him.
    Thanks very much for being ‘This Mornings’ Farmer’

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      Dirk Kuyt mk 2 (with his 2nd touch not a slide tackle.)

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        He's going to be a very good signing IMO.

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          Originally posted by RichC View Post
          Dirk Kuyt mk 2 (with his 2nd touch not a slide tackle.)
          A Rafa-type signing in a way. Rafa built a team where nearly every player could be handed the captain's armband. Rodgers needs to factor this in to his signings. I think Dion Fanning has it spot on when it comes to Rodger's various achilles' heels, like in this article from last year:

          Dion Fanning: Rodgers confuses stronger and weaker, character and leader
          Dion Fanning
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          31/08/2014 | 13:00SHARE
          Liverpool boss Brendan RodgersOPEN GALLERY 3
          Liverpool boss Brendan Rodgers
          Mario Balotelli is one of a number of players at the club who, in football's cliche, can be anything they want to be.
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          Last weekend Mario Balotelli's agent Mino Raiola gave an interview explaining his client's decision to sign for Liverpool. "I sought out for him a team where he can be an important element without being asked to be a leader," he said.
          If anything has stood out from Liverpool's early season performances, especially their collapse at the Etihad on Monday night, it is their need for leaders. Brendan Rodgers has insisted that Liverpool will be stronger in the absence of Luis Suarez but even if they find a way of matching the goals he scored and the assists he provided, they are still searching for a way to replace the force of his personality.
          Balotelli brings personality, but that is different. He is a reminder that there are still characters in football and it isn't necessarily a good thing. There are sexist characters, racist characters, all kinds of characters bantering all the time, convinced of their own hilarity and the necessity of providing a bit of fun.
          Balotelli is a different kind of character. He is doomed to be mentioned with that knowing chuckle that indicates the speaker is ok with whatever wackiness might come up in the course of a discussion about Balotelli. Mario, they will say, their voice trailing off as they shake their head in wonderment, a sign that they are taking us into a wacky zone which encompasses all past and future acts of wackiness.
          So far, Balotelli has not been able to escape this prison. He could be seen as a comedian who craves a serious role except it is hard to know what Balotelli craves. Whatever it is, he remains a seductive concept for a manager, especially a manager like Rodgers who believes "we are all on a pilgrimage here on earth to maximise what we can".
          Balotelli's pilgrimage has brought maximum publicity for a sparing use of his talent but it is his ability that tantalises. Perhaps Rodgers can draw what Alex Ferguson drew from Eric Cantona, although Balotelli is more likely to be reminiscent of Stan Collymore.
          He is capable of brilliance and at White Hart Lane he will be released from the kind of expectation that usually drags him down. Right now he is free again, free from the monotonous demands of the serious professional, the realisation that football, like life, is just one damn thing after another.
          Balotelli has been liberated from the responsibility of being a leader when Liverpool need a replacement for Suarez and some strong personalities, not just colourful ones.
          Liverpool have a new defence which will take time to develop an understanding, it is said. Right now, they appear to have the same level of understanding as the old Liverpool defence which conceded 50 goals in the Premier League last season and two or more in 16 league matches.
          That aspect of Rodgers' philosophy remained unaltered last Monday night, excused because this was a new defence even if it had immediately absorbed the key defensive principles of a Rodgers side.
          Without Suarez, those principles will come under greater scrutiny, as will the man who needs to demonstrate that when he says Liverpool will be stronger without Suarez, the word he isn't actually reaching for is 'weaker'.
          Brendan Rodgers is Liverpool's dominant personality now, a role he assumes with a certain magnificence, if also a certain awareness of his magnificence. He has done much to persuade people that the loss of Suarez will not be felt. He has embarked on a great offensive over the summer and, at times, he appeared intent on ensuring Liverpool overcame the loss of their most important player through the force of his soaring rhetoric alone.
          English football is searching for a new doyen and Rodgers looks comfortable with the title. He has assumed the position as a magus of the Premier League, a man with many wise and beautiful things to say and many wise and beautiful ways of saying them.
          Last season he fulfilled the role thrust upon him with effortless charm until the final weeks when he left Selhurst Park talking about a failure of game management. This came as something of a shock as Liverpool had been managing games the same way all season, conceding goals with ease and relying on Suarez and their other forwards to overcome this difficulty. At Selhurst Park it was a surprise to learn that this was not part of his philosophy but was instead due to a failure of the players.
          Rodgers, at least, is in a rich vein of form, effortlessly able to deal with the contradiction of categorically stating Liverpool would not be interested in signing Balotelli with the categorical decision to sign Balotelli. These are minor matters for a man who can reinvent himself at will, who always takes a global perspective and can be utterly convincing even when the thing he says disagrees with the last thing he said.
          Last season Rodgers could say what he liked because he had a leader in Suarez whose genius allowed Liverpool to overcome the structural weaknesses of the side.
          His sale allowed Liverpool to address those structural concerns amid promises that this season we would see a Liverpool which would cheer all those who cherish the style of football Brendan Rodgers is associated with.
          Nobody cherishes it more than Rodgers himself and as he explained away Liverpool's defeat to City on Monday night, he was, as ever, preternaturally soothing.
          Liverpool had controlled much of the first half and, even though they had lost, there was no need to be concerned as they were three points better off than after the corresponding two fixtures last season. In other words, they hadn't lost at home to Southampton.
          If they lose at White Hart Lane, the Corresponding Fixture Index would be less attractive. Balotelli is capable of keeping Liverpool ahead for the time being. He is one of a number of players at the club who, in football's cliche, can be anything they want to be. Liverpool may need something more. They may need players who know exactly what they want to be.
          Felching ≠ Gerbilling

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            Hearing Milner will become the new Vice Captain. Happy with that?
            This city has two great football teams – Liverpool and Liverpool reserves

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              Not really, it should be Lucas

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                I'd be content with that. He's going to be a legend here and it's not like he'd be knocking some other great candidate out of the way, Sakho is awesome but has fitness doubts, Lucas has injury problems and may not be a regular anyway, Skrtel is ****, Can is very young etc etc.

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                  Yep I'd be happy, said it last week I'd like him to get it.

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                    I'm wondering if I might be a little gooey fangirl for Milner and have him as my new favourite player. He's boss.

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                      He's criminally underrated.

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                        Originally posted by Norbs View Post
                        Not really, it should be Lucas
                        I don't think Lucas will be playing regularly I'm afraid
                        The only gracious way to accept an insult is to ignore it; if you can't ignore it, top it; if you can't top it, laugh at it; if you can't laugh at it, it's probably deserved.

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                          Originally posted by powerpack View Post
                          Hearing Milner will become the new Vice Captain. Happy with that?
                          Given a fact that he just joined I am not sure how he could even be in consideration but I guess anything is possible and if Dominic King says he is the most likely choice then he'll probably be.

                          Would prefer that either Sakho, Skrtel or Lucas are chosen instead as I think choosing Milner would send the wrong message to the rest of the squad.
                          Member #1 of the Luis Suarez fan club

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                            In the friendlies so far, Milner is doing an awful lot of instructing and going through things with players. I don't recall seeing him doing this much of it with Man City.

                            Rodgers may have spoken to the senior members of the squad i.e. Skrtel, Lucas, to go through his thinking with regard to leadership, as they'd be along the line to take the captaincy if and when Henderson and Milner don't play (if Milner gets the vice-captaincy).

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                              I wasn't over excited when we signed Milner but I've been impressed with what I've seen so far in pre-season.

                              I'm looking forward to seeing how he does against stronger opposition.

                              So far it looks like he's going to grow into his role here very well.

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                                James Milner is a machine with real quality, real character and he's a winner, I don't think the club has been given enough credit for getting him over City and probably Arsenal
                                Anybody who criticizes Klopp ever is a James Blunt. Nov 2015
                                #****CITY

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