Jordan Henderson

[SimonNo7]

*Looks again*

That's because I didn't reply to him.

Thank god for that, at least it means I'm not going round the bend

[Roboklopp]

No one is whinging or moaning, they are giving an opinion. No one is writing him off as a bad signing, they just are of the opinion that one of our form players should be ahead of Henderson. If you don't like opinions and debate I suggest you stick to the LFC news section cos you are in the wrong ****ing place.

[Rich]

There's been plenty of whinging!

[Shaggy]

I agree with you about the 'if only...if only...' but some people talk about Maxi as if he was a regular goal scorer when in fact he score in 6 league games out of 38...

It matters not how they came - he returned 10 goals for the season and that's that. Henderson - although obviously young with stacks of scope for improvement - won't get 10 this season.

Regarding Maxi, I read this yesterday which sums it up perfectly:

Maxi Rodriguez – Underrated, intelligent player. An excellent passer and mover capable of scoring goals. All of which is rarely apparent to those who would bemoan the fact that he is not a quick dribbler nor a crosser of the ball. A victim of narrow views in this country about what a wide player should be.

[RichC]

No one is whinging or moaning, they are giving an opinion. No one is writing him off as a bad signing, they just are of the opinion that one of our form players should be ahead of Henderson. If you don't like opinions and debate I suggest you stick to the LFC news section cos you are in the wrong ****ing place.

tbf it's hard to say anyone is a "form" player at the moment - we've played one league match!

Kuyt should start today though, big game player.

[SimonNo7]

It matters not how they came - he returned 10 goals for the season and that's that. Henderson - although obviously young with stacks of scope for improvement - won't get 10 this season.

Maxi Rodriguez – Underrated, intelligent player. An excellent passer and mover capable of scoring goals. All of which is rarely apparent to those who would bemoan the fact that he is not a quick dribbler nor a crosser of the ball. A victim of narrow views in this country about what a wide player should be.

Regarding Maxi, I read this yesterday which sums it up perfectly:

No you are absolutely right about it not mattering where those goals came, but it just riles me that some people on here use stats for their own cause, like saying Maxi scored 10 goals last season (which he did obviously) as if he was a regular scorer (which he wasn't although his 10 goals is a good return) but dismiss other stats of our new lot out of hand.

Like I have previously said, I think Maxi is a good player (as stated in the quote on your post) but I also feel as he is now 30 he is not going to improve and we should be looking to replace him.

I also would like to point out that what I would really like to see this season is both Maxi and Henderson get a number of games, score more goals combined than Maxi's 10 and create more scoring chances between them than we created last season. After all we do have a much stronger squad than last season although I would say we still need a CB and ST. I would also only look to offload one midfielder (usual suspect) so that we have real strength in depth and one hell of a battle for a place in the team.

[danperkins]

My point is you have started a thread which is negative and is therefore going to cause people to whinge and moan about a lad who has only played one competivie game for us.

Yes your view is that he is a somewhat a pointless signing but surely you could have used some common sense and reserved judegement until you have seen the lad play a run of games, that is not difficult is it??

I have watched him for Sunderland, at U21 international level, pre season + that one game & still don't know what he is.

My opinion was & is a general one, and certainly not based on "1" game. I am not writing him off whatsoever nor am i criticizing the lad, i cannot account for what others post. The thread was a valid one and i was just asking a question about what he does, no need to start a fire mate. You seemed to have very much over reacted IMO.

Anyways Henderson does have talent & he has my 100% support, but that does not mean that i'm not allowed to ask questions, absolutely nothing wrong with the thread. And i'm sure most will support Hendo 100% and give him time to settle, and hopefully he progresses.

P.S. The concept of a forum is to express you're opinion

[Shaggy]

I have watched him for Sunderland, at U21 international level, pre season + that one game & still don't know what he is.

My opinion was & is a general one, and certainly not based on "1" game. I am not writing him off whatsoever, nor am i criticizing the lad, i cannot account for what others post, the thread was a valid one, just asking a question about what he does, no need to start a fire mate.

Anyways Henderson does have talent & he has my 100% support, but that does not mean that i'm not allowed to ask questions, absolutely nothing wrong with the thread, and i'm sure most will support Hendo 100% and give him time to settle, and hopefully he progresses.

P.S. The concept of a forum is to express you're opinion

I agree with this really. Nowt wrong with it. Most footballers you watch for 90 minutes and know immediately what sort of player he is. Henderson's not so easy to figure out, especially being so young and having played in different positions. I don't know what his best position is either and can't really suss him out yet.

Having seen him at very close quarters last week (first half he played on my side and from my front row seat got to watch him very closely) he's obviously neat and tidy, economical with good awareness, but I want to find out what he's got in his locker in the last third, something we never really saw last week. He must have plenty to offer as he got so many fantasy points last season.

[Shaggy]

deleted, wrong thread

[red g]

Henderson probably split Sunderland fans more than Lucas used to here.

Have a few mates with season tickets u there and he used to get a load of grief from his own fans but to others he was a fantastic player.

[danperkins]

I agree with this really. Nowt wrong with it. Most footballers you watch for 90 minutes and know immediately what sort of player he is. Henderson's not so easy to figure out, especially being so young and having played in different positions. I don't know what his best position is either and can't really suss him out yet.

Having seen him at very close quarters last week (first half he played on my side and from my front row seat got to watch him very closely) he's obviously neat and tidy, economical with good awareness, but I want to find out what he's got in his locker in the last third, something we never really saw last week. He must have plenty to offer as he got so many fantasy points last season.

he'll get adequate time to prove himself and develop into a role,whatever that maybe

[Maxiedge]

Henderson reminds me of a young Frank Lampard. If he's not scoring goals, it doesn't seem like he's doing much.

He's comfortable with both feet so that's a start.

[Craig_H]

I agree with you about the 'if only...if only...' but some people talk about Maxi as if he was a regular goal scorer when in fact he score in 6 league games out of 38...

He only played 28 league games - and scored 10 league goals.

Whichever way you spin it, that's a great return.

[Craig_H]

I'm not criticising him, I was just noting that, because someone was once again suggesting that one of our new signings is **** because they are not a foreign superstar and suggesting one of our current players is a superstar because he scored ten goals last season, he only scored in 6 games.

For the record I believe Maxi is a good player but that I also believe he is not going to improve and we should be looking to replace him.

Never saw anyone suggesting he was a superstar.

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Henderson vs Arsenal



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