Jordon Ibe

[Bender]

Quality goal from Ibe today.....

[BigChief]

Derby fans saying he was anonymous until that wonder goal.

But he is coming back from an injury.

Edit: Just been reading Derby forums and most are giving him a 5 or 6 out of 10 despite the wonder goal he scored. General consensus so far is he offers something to Derby they don't have, i.e. pace and directness, but without a football brain. A Zaha/Lennon type.

I think he desperately needs some Rodgers guidance before its too late to mould him.

[SB]

Scored in the 7th min vs Huddersfield. 1-1 at present

[Bender]

Scored a Beauty today v Watford

[Daniel 7]

He couldn't have been any worse than Markovic this season, surely.

[Slinky Skills]

Goal that was!

[BigChief]

He couldn't have been any worse than Markovic this season, surely.

He could and we would have destroyed his confidence. I've been keeping an eye on Derby forums and despite some good moments the general consensus is he isn't doing enough in games. Its all part of the learning curve obviously, but not one he would get with limited playing time and massive pressure here.

Even today, despite his worldie goal, the feeling is he makes the wrong decisions and goes missing. This is in the Championship.

[frank the tank]

He could and we would have destroyed his confidence. I've been keeping an eye on Derby forums and despite some good moments the general consensus is he isn't doing enough in games. Its all part of the learning curve obviously, but not one he would get with limited playing time and massive pressure here.

Even today, despite his worldie goal, the feeling is he makes the wrong decisions and goes missing. This is in the Championship.

although it is important for his development that he gets games under his belt, the stint in the championship isn't going to make or break him - at least it shouldnt anyway.

Look at Ross Barkley - he hardly was incredible for Sheffield Wed or Leeds and now he is being billed as the next Gascoigne (the footballer aspect as opposed to the drunk wife-beating, Raoul Moat negociator guy!!)

[frank the tank]

i think i would prefer to have Ibe, Suso or Teixeria on the bench as opposed to Markovic though.....

[BigChief]

The championship won't make or break him, but it will give him critical development. LFC in its current mini-crisis won't. Ibe is a very important player for our long term future and has to be carefully nurtured. Sterling had Suarez and Sturridge to nurture him. Ibe won't have that here.

[red g]

although it is important for his development that he gets games under his belt, the stint in the championship isn't going to make or break him - at least it shouldnt anyway.

Look at Ross Barkley - he hardly was incredible for Sheffield Wed or Leeds and now he is being billed as the next Gascoigne (the footballer aspect as opposed to the drunk wife-beating, Raoul Moat negociator guy!!)

only by the media, most of the Everton fans i know would take 25m now and think he is more likely to be the next Rodwell than Rooney in terms of success.

Maybe not Rodwell but nowhere near worthy of the hype

[frank the tank]

only by the media, most of the Everton fans i know would take 25m now and think he is more likely to be the next Rodwell than Rooney in terms of success.

Maybe not Rodwell but nowhere near worthy of the hype

i dont think he will be a Rooney.....but i dont think he will be far off either to be honest...

i wouldnt be surprised to see him go to chelsea at the end of the season for a huge fee. I reckon it could be all tied up in the Lukaku deal where everton paid £28m for him....i wouldn't be surprised if the whole deal was designed to let chelsea comply with FFP and they will give everton a huge wedge back (something stupid like £48m) for Barkley...... (making the actual figures something like £30m for Barkley and £10m for Lukaku!)

[red g]

i dont think he will be a Rooney.....but i dont think he will be far off either to be honest...

i wouldnt be surprised to see him go to chelsea at the end of the season for a huge fee. I reckon it could be all tied up in the Lukaku deal where everton paid £28m for him....i wouldn't be surprised if the whole deal was designed to let chelsea comply with FFP and they will give everton a huge wedge back (something stupid like £48m) for Barkley...... (making the actual figures something like £30m for Barkley and £10m for Lukaku!)

I always thought he could be something special but then look what Rooney had achieved by a similar age, Although he could have stagnated if he was left at Everton to

didn't realise Rooney never even got into double figures before his Scum move...I reckon Barkley could be something special and I agree, there was definitely something fishy in that deal.....Funny how Chelsea seem to have got some stupid figures in for outgoings recently, Definitely somethign fishy going on with those deals

[baitman]

i think i would prefer to have Ibe, Suso or Teixeria on the bench as opposed to Markovic though.....

ibe and tex for sure, suso not su much.

[BigChief]

Derby vs Chelsea on tonight, SS1. Probably worth a watch to see where our lad is at.

Reading a Derby forum last night the fans see him as someone who could have a magic moment that could be the difference. But some don't want him playing because of his ability to go missing or dribbling down blind alleys (Baros).

Maybe needs another half a season there to really blossom, and learn.