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Nobody knows whether it was Rodgers or the committee going for those playersOriginally posted by Fan65 View PostDidn't Rodgers go for Costa, Sanchez & Bony only losing out to bigger spenders and the lure of the lights.
Rodgers cannot be blamed for that.
I'm sure he knows who he needs it's just getting them is the problem
To me the only players that are definitely Rodgers signings are Allen & Borini because they happened immediately after his arrival and before the scouts etc that make up the transfer committee had arrived
The rest is open to debate / argument and its probably difficult to draw the line at who did whatLast edited by Lecter; 21-04-15, 03:27 PM.Bob Paisley - "This club has been my life. I'd go out and sweep the street and be proud to do it for Liverpool if they asked me to."
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Absolutely it is, which is why your opening line isn't worth considering really imo. Rodgers AND the committee (which he is part of so even that distinction is rather pointless) are responsible for all the players brought in imo, and also for the targets identified that we didn't get.Originally posted by Lecter View PostNobody knows whether it was Rodgers or the committee going for those players
To me the only players that are definitely Rodgers signings are Allen & Borini because they happened immediately after his arrival and before the scouts etc that make up the transfer committee had arrived
The rest is open to debate / argument and its probably difficult to draw the line at who did whatI could not dig, I dared not rob:
Therefore I lied to please the mob.
Now all my lies are proved untrue
And I must face the men I slew.
What tale shall serve me here among
Mine angry and defrauded young?
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This lack of clarity over who does what doesn't seem to do anyone any favours, especially if its as undefined behind closed doors as it appears to us, trying to look in.
Without being all ****ty speculative, it seems like this committee is a wishy washy compromise for Brendan after he put his foot down when he apparently refused to work under a DoF. I think they should just be decisive, now that they (FSG) have more theoretical power and say that they make the signings. Be the bosses.
If there's debate about Ashley Williams or the next Joe ****ing Allen, tough ****. The scouts scout the players, the business people do the contracts and you Brendan, you concentrate on coaching the team!
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The constant need to proportion blame and hang people out to dry is ridiculous IMO. mistakes have been made and hopefully the club has learnt from them. People moan when things get leaked saying we should be doing things behind close doors yet when things are kept behind closed doors you want clarity
Fickle world.Go **** yourself
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Bottom line is that Rodgers and the committee have to agree on the signings. Rodgers can't sign whoever he likes, but neither can he have players he doesn't want forced on him. But what id like to know is the options Rodgers had presented to him, now that would be interesting.Forwards.......
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BalotelliOriginally posted by DannyMan2006 View PostBottom line is that Rodgers and the committee have to agree on the signings. Rodgers can't sign whoever he likes, but neither can he have players he doesn't want forced on him. But what id like to know is the options Rodgers had presented to him, now that would be interesting.
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I thought it was relatively clear who did what on the committee, Ayre has given interviews explaining exactly who is in it and what they do. Perhaps that in itself is the problem, we actually know too much. I bet loads of other teams have heads of "recruitment" or "technical performance" like we do in Fallows & Edwards who do almost exactly the same things, no top clubs just let the manager (or a DOF) make purchasing decisions alone these days, we just formalised it and talked too much about it. We football fans seem to like binary, one or the other, he's great or he's ****, his fault or not, they shouldn't have confused usOriginally posted by Daniel 7 View PostThis lack of clarity over who does what doesn't seem to do anyone any favours, especially if its as undefined behind closed doors as it appears to us, trying to look in.
Suggesting the manager (well he'd just be first team head coach in your scenario) should have no input on player signings is a pretty significant depart from how people usually want it done - is that Rodgers specific or how it should be generally? Are their many real examples of clubs operating like that with sustained success?Originally posted by Daniel 7 View PostIf there's debate about Ashley Williams or the next Joe ****ing Allen, tough ****. The scouts scout the players, the business people do the contracts and you Brendan, you concentrate on coaching the team!
AbsolutelyOriginally posted by DannyMan2006 View PostBottom line is that Rodgers and the committee have to agree on the signings. Rodgers can't sign whoever he likes, but neither can he have players he doesn't want forced on him. But what id like to know is the options Rodgers had presented to him, now that would be interesting.
Originally posted by Daniel 7 View PostBalotelli
I could not dig, I dared not rob:
Therefore I lied to please the mob.
Now all my lies are proved untrue
And I must face the men I slew.
What tale shall serve me here among
Mine angry and defrauded young?
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McAteer, molby and co have raised some issues on their podcast about us only buying youth but lovren, lallana, Lambert and balotelli aren't young players.
Theyre proven international footballers so some of the criticism of fsg is off. However, theyre not without blame. Far from it.
In Rodgers defence its probably a valid assumption that after losing Luis Suarez he didn't ask for players like Can and markovic who aren't yet the real deal. There's an element of us and them in terms of Rodgers signings. Rodgers treatment of sakho, markovic and Moreno at times does suggest that either theyre not his cup of tea or that they're not ready to play.Last edited by Marvel; 22-04-15, 08:24 AM.
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I wouldn't go as far as calling them proven International FootballersOriginally posted by Marvel View PostMcAteer, molby and co have raised some issues on their podcast about us only buying youth but lovren, lallana, Lambert and balotelli aren't young players.
Theyre proven international footballers so some of the criticism of fsg is off. However, theyre not without blame. Far from it.
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