Brendan Rodgers

[Muddled]

Also 50 chances???

Hmm forgive me for saying this but this chances created thing must be a very broad and all encompassing stat

Defined as a pass that leads to a shot on goal.

We averaged 12.84 chances a game last season. This season we have averaged 11.23. Our shot conversion has dropped to 46% (nearly on par with Rodgers' first season (44%)) but we've also lost goals from other sources. We're one of the league's worst performers with regards to goals from set-pieces (one crossed free-kick; one direct free-kick; two from corners and five penalties).

We are adept at going forward in everything we do until it comes to putting the ball in the net. A lot of heavy defeats have come from us going behind, throwing the game plan out of the window and not having the fire power to turn those games around.

[Pablo]

Someone who can put the ball in the net is what we need desperately. If you look at the table our goals against record (37) is comparable to Man City (36), Arsenal (32) and Man Utd (34), where we differ from them is in goals scored we have 47 where has Man City, Arsenal and Man Utd have 70, 63 and 59 respectively, an extra 15-20 goals could have made a huge difference. While we might have still been unhappy with performances, the truth is scoring goals and picking up points can mask alot of other problems.

I do feel disappointed in some of our players for not stepping up their goal tallies. No one has picked it up significantly this season in the absence of Suarez and Sturridge.

The fact that no one is going to break 10 goals is a major embarrassment.

Sterling - 7
Henderson - 6
Coutinho - 4

I will give Henderson and Coutinho some credit as they've clearly worked on this part of their game.

Henderson's 6 goals is a decent return although you feel next season he can get 10+.

Coutinho for me should be capable of 10+ too. He's improved his shooting this season, but he should be getting in the box more to score too.

Sterling needs to work on his finishing all Summer. If he is to push onto the level he believes he's already at then he should be pushing 20 goals next season (or 30 if he's at Real).

As for the rest, ****ing pathetic really. It just shows how much of a lift Suarez gave to the rest of the team. In his absence barely anyone has been able to maintain their level.

[Yozza]

I think the football has been poor from us this season, barring a handful of games

Most notably Spurs away

& City at home springs to mind

Just had a quick look at the seasons results to see if there were more highlights but sadly no

It's been a ****ing awful season & somehow until 2 games ago we were in for a shout for fourth - staggering

[gratziani]

We've created 50 chances in our last five league games and only scored four.

Combine that with, as you say, a relatively tighter defence and you can see where our problems lie. People want to point at systems, tactics and formations for our failures this season, but ultimately, we've played some good football this season but we've been hopeless in front of goal.

That is what I have seen as well , our defence earlier in the season was horrendous , everyone was saying we needed a defensive coach because Brendan didn't know how to sort one out ,

[gratziani]

Someone who can put the ball in the net is what we need desperately. If you look at the table our goals against record (37) is comparable to Man City (36), Arsenal (32) and Man Utd (34), where we differ from them is in goals scored we have 47 where has Man City, Arsenal and Man Utd have 70, 63 and 59 respectively, an extra 15-20 goals could have made a huge difference. While we might have still been unhappy with performances, the truth is scoring goals and picking up points can mask alot of other problems.

Just looked at our last fifteen games in all competitions and we have conceded 10 goals with 4 in one game against Arsenal when we should have been winning after Markovic'a atrocious pass/miss , so would say defensive issues have been resolved.

[Muddled]

Just looked at our last fifteen games in all competitions and we have conceded 10 goals with 4 in one game against Arsenal when we should have been winning after Markovic'a atrocious pass/miss , so would say defensive issues have been resolved.

It's a good point you make about scoring first (whilst I don't think your example was entirely Markovic's fault); We often start games well, fail to take advantage by scoring when on top and then concede. We then lose heavily whilst chasing the game.

We are the joint worst in the league for the number of points won from a losing position this season. Level with Everton, WBA and Sunderland with four points gained. I think this highlights a mental frailty within the squad that is going to be further compounded with the loss of experienced players like Gerrard, Johnson, Lucas, et al.

[Yozza]

Just looked at our last fifteen games in all competitions and we have conceded 10 goals with 4 in one game against Arsenal when we should have been winning after Markovic'a atrocious pass/miss , so would say defensive issues have been resolved.

Far from it I think mate

It's all about the balance of the team & it is way off - has been all season

The defence was terrible last year but we were simply blowing teams away due to S & S. Going to three at the back has stabilised the defence but at the huge expense of us going forward

Whats the point in being more defensive minded & still losing by the odd goal?

Once we start getting more attack minded we'll see how good our defence is - & I'm not too confident those stats will remain the same

[Maxiedge]

I think the football has been poor from us this season, barring a handful of games

Most notably Spurs away

Spurs away was all about Sturridge. Tore them a new one every time he got the ball.

[Muddled]

I firmly believe Rodgers deserves another season. It's hard not to react in the pain of defeat, but if you look at the season and performances dispassionately there are certain positives, but my stance does come with certain caveats.

There is no room for failure in our recruitment this summer and FSG are going to have to be flexible. We need an experienced player (if not three) as an addition to our youthful squad.

We have to try and retain Sterling, as much as I think he's off. We have a young squad that has come together for the last two seasons. These experiences of semi-final defeats and title challenges, as well as big games against the top four or five will only spur them on as they develop. If these guys can peak together, we will have a formidable team if we get it right this summer.

Rodgers has to trust in his ability and be decisive. He has often tailored the team to match the opponent, but is too quick to tweak things if the run of the ball isn't instant. We lose our shape, players look confused and this only exacerbates the situation. Why spend a week or however long getting ready for the game, only to try to be too clever during the game.

He needs to settle on his 'Plan A' and perfect that before looking to set up other tactics. Rodgers is clearly very tactically astute. Twice he has looked at his players and built two teams around two individual players. He needs to now look at how to get his players in to his preferred formation. This stability will assist the players in knowing their roles.

It's a big season ahead for Rodgers - one he has to get right.

[gratziani]

It's a good point you make about scoring first (whilst I don't think your example was entirely Markovic's fault); We often start games well, fail to take advantage by scoring when on top and then concede. We then lose heavily whilst chasing the game.

We are the joint worst in the league for the number of points won from a losing position this season. Level with Everton, WBA and Sunderland with four points gained. I think this highlights a mental frailty within the squad that is going to be further compounded with the loss of experienced players like Gerrard, Johnson, Lucas, et al.

Also the Arsenal game we were missing Skrtel which seemed to disrupt all the defensive solidity we had built previously. Then had to put up with Kolo Baresi

[Muddled]

I think the football has been poor from us this season, barring a handful of games

Most notably Spurs away

Whilst clearly not ideal, even in defeat we have had spells of good football, it's just the results that cloud our judgement. However, it goes without saying that we have to make these spells of good football last longer and not capitulate when we go a goal behind.

Granted, we've only had a boss 90 minutes a handful of times this season.

[Fierce]

I don't think in any organisation you can dodge every bullet when you are in a key position. We need more than excuses here.

Rodgers undoubtedly has to provide some answers to the board, and also outline his vision for the future. If you can only come up with excuses as to why things have gone wrong, then any board in any business would and should fire you - Brendan needs to offer more.

I'd say this summer will one way or other be the defining moment in his career as Manager of LFC. He shouldn't be getting an easy ride right now, the questions of his ability are valid, and asking them doesn't make you less of a supporter - it is more complicated than that. Rodgers is a grown man in an incredibly privileged position, with that comes great pressure to perform and deliver results. We don't look back we look forward. The greatest LFC teams, in fact all of the great teams carry this ethos 100%.

For me, currently, I don't think I care if he stays or goes, so long as the result is an improvement. The worry is we stagnate, as current performance and this season as a whole has been a backwards step, we haven't consolidated we've gone backwards - no question. The season has contained more bad performances than good, and more worryingly a complete lack of direction, some shocking management decisions (Line up v. Madrid, persistence with failing tactics and ailing players). So we need some off field impetus in the summer, and that will come in either the shape of a few eye-catching signings, or a new manager and some eye -catching signings.

We are going out with a whimper not a bang, and after the fireworks of last season this season ends about as badly as any I can remember in some time. Without passion. And that is unforgiveable.

[gratziani]

People go on about Brendan being inflexible and our defence being all over the place.

He changes systems to get the best out of the players we had and goes on a three month unbeaten run accumulating more points than any other team.

All this time we are still not scoring for fun , worldies from Coutinho and Henderson get us tight victories when we play bad . No strikers to call on even with Sturridge back he is benched a lot .

From the position we were in would signing any striker in Jan have resolved these issues ?

Did the club miss out on top 4 because of this short sightedness ?

[Lecter]

Defined as a pass that leads to a shot on goal.

We averaged 12.84 chances a game last season. This season we have averaged 11.23. Our shot conversion has dropped to 46% (nearly on par with Rodgers' first season (44%)) but we've also lost goals from other sources. We're one of the league's worst performers with regards to goals from set-pieces (one crossed free-kick; one direct free-kick; two from corners and five penalties).

We are adept at going forward in everything we do until it comes to putting the ball in the net. A lot of heavy defeats have come from us going behind, throwing the game plan out of the window and not having the fire power to turn those games around.

Ah right that makes sense because the amount of times we are hopefully shooting from outside the box because we have numerous defenders in front of us is enormous

I'd say the quality of chances we were creating last season were far superior to what we are creating this season

That stat imo is kind of pointless

I think we are ok in possession till we get near the box, we dont create an awful lot of clear cut / guilt edged chances.

[Lecter]

Whilst clearly not ideal, even in defeat we have had spells of good football, it's just the results that cloud our judgement. However, it goes without saying that we have to make these spells of good football last longer and not capitulate when we go a goal behind.

Granted, we've only had a boss 90 minutes a handful of times this season.

Its not the result that clouds the judgement, even in our run it was littered with poor performances