Brendan Rodgers

[cream]

Whoever we have as boss they won't be making the signings. It's more important we sign the right players this summer than anything else. But with Rodgers it's difficult to actually know the formation so how do you sign players?

The committee would've known exactly what formations Brendan intended to use.

[Tee]

The biggest issue was we were starting to believe again, then we bottle three big games and its natural to start asking questions after the state of how the season started.

Last season we were so so close, then to go from that euphoria to this early season depression, followed by fresh hope which has been smashed again....it's all too much to decipher and try and apportion blame in all honesty.

However, ultimatelysomeone has to be responsible, and Brendan has to be that person right? He made his choices, ultimately failed on all trophy fronts every season he has been in charge. But, and it's a big but, he has been a breath of fresh air in his approach with the young players.

It's such a tough one but the only thing that saves him this season in my eyes is if we miraculously make the CL.

[Marina]

Last season we were so so close, then to go from that euphoria to this early season depression, followed by fresh hope which has been smashed again....it's all too much to decipher and try and apportion blame in all honesty.

However, ultimatelysomeone has to be responsible, and Brendan has to be that person right? He made his choices, ultimately failed on all trophy fronts every season he has been in charge. But, and it's a big but, he has been a breath of fresh air in his approach with the young players.

It's such a tough one but the only thing that saves him this season in my eyes is if we miraculously make the CL.

That's more or less fair. I like Brendan for the most part and think he's done a decent job, but perhaps not decent enough. Yesterday's performance was just so pathetic. But then again the injuries in the squad are lengthy, and critical players are among them. I dunno. More likely than not he will get another season unless we can genuinely make an upgrade, which is doubtful.

I really can't see City/United dropping the required number of points. It's just too much to ask. We ****ed it up this season.

[Marvel]

Its hard to be critical of someone who could raise £125m in 2 seasons by selling Suarez and sterling for huge profit.

He may not be a great manager that we need yet but if he raises that money then you can't sack him.

[peekay]

What's more, any time Rodgers does answer a question with something a bit more interesting than media-friendly guff he gets pelters on here for "not keeping it in house" and "talking too much". I really think he cannot win with some sections of our fanbase unless we literally win every single game (and even then some people would maintain being "unsure" about him), which is obviously not at all realistic.

For the record I think calls for Rodgers to be sacked are crazy. There are certainly issues within the squad as a whole, and also in his management, but I genuinely believe we can be extremely successful with him at the helm and am 100% behind him getting another season.

I also think the Klopp thing is hilarious, massive success with Dortmund in the past sure, but after he losing their best player/striker last summer they were in the relegation zone at Xmas - if that had happened to us this season (in very similar circumstances) many of our fans would have been burning Rodgers effigies outside Anfield until he was summarily dismissed.

All managers talk bull**** to the media when their teams are not doing well. So no point trying to parse through each and every word he says.

I don't share your support for Rodgers, though I think he deserves one more season with hopefully some intelligent and shrewd transfers over the summer.

[Shaggy]

I also think the Klopp thing is hilarious, massive success with Dortmund in the past sure, but after he losing their best player/striker last summer they were in the relegation zone at Xmas - if that had happened to us this season (in very similar circumstances) many of our fans would have been burning Rodgers effigies outside Anfield until he was summarily dismissed.

You can't just dismiss that with a "sure" and use this season's anomaly as the barometer. The guy has won ****. Big ****. Conquered richer clubs, a proper super power in Bayern. Brendan, as much as I like him, hasn't won so much as a raffle.

I'm not saying Brendan out, but I would find Klopp very difficult to resist should his appointment become a realistic possibility.

[Shaggy]

Also where Dortmund were at Christmas isn't really relevant. They're 9th, will probably finish about 7th - a position Brendan has already had us in.

[red g]

You can't just dismiss that with a "sure" and use this season's anomaly as the barometer. The guy has won ****. Big ****. Conquered richer clubs, a proper super power in Bayern. Brendan, as much as I like him, hasn't won so much as a raffle.

I'm not saying Brendan out, but I would find Klopp very difficult to resist should his appointment become a realistic possibility.

Swansea City
Football League Championship play-offs: 2010–11

Which he said "There are more prestigious games in football in terms of trophies but the play-off final, in terms of career and life and where it projects you to, is a big game.

"That game will always be the biggest game in my career"

I read that and thought it better ****ing not be!!!

[Phoenix07]

That's the question - stick or twist?

Rodgers arguably has earned himself another year after last season's exploits, and going most of the season without his best striker. However, with Klopp and De Boer available (I'd much prefer the former if he wants the job), will the powers that be see them as continental upgrades who can push us to a new level, and if so, will they make that move given the options available? If we don't make 4th (and depends if we finish 5th, 6th or 7th) and have another iffy season, what kind of managers will be available next season? Do we make the twist now, or do we trust Rodgers enough to give him another year and miss out on two targets of the calibre mentioned.

[Liverpool]

I'm not saying Brendan out, but I would find Klopp very difficult to resist should his appointment become a realistic possibility.

I'm also in the 'Not Rodgers not, but someone better in' group

[Mark79]

Don't know where I am with Rodgers now.

1st Season - Got off to a slow start, but then real progress from around December onwards.

2nd Season - Incredible. Exceeded all expectations and played the most exciting football we'd seen since the late 80's.

3rd Season - A big set back. Some mitigating circumstances, but not helped by mostly poor recruitment throughout his tenure.

That's 2 positive seasons out of 3, which should be enough to warrant a 4th.

I'm still torn though. I have faith in Rodgers as a coach long term, but recruitment is a massive concern. The committee just seems to be a one big compromise between Rodgers and the rest, so it's hard to ever see it working.

Given the players that Rodger's has chosen or wanted to sign, it would be a disaster to let him have sole control, but he won't accept the alternative of bringing in a DoF.

So what's the answer?

I'd hate binning a manager after 3 good years overall, especially one who was just one result away from finally delivering no.19 in just his second season.

But overall, if Klopp is a realistic option, that would presumably allow FSG to bring in a DoF as they initially preferred. They idea of having a top class coach with a record of winning, coupled with a cohesive recruitment set up is a very appealing one.

I hate to say it so soon after last season, but if Klopp is gettable it might be best for a timely change.

[MrMichael]

You can't just dismiss that with a "sure" and use this season's anomaly as the barometer. The guy has won ****. Big ****. Conquered richer clubs, a proper super power in Bayern. Brendan, as much as I like him, hasn't won so much as a raffle.

I'm not saying Brendan out, but I would find Klopp very difficult to resist should his appointment become a realistic possibility.

Different leagues, different situations, different expectations etc though. Certainly in domestic competition I don't think the strength of the relative leagues are comparable at all. I wasn't really meaning to dismiss Klopp's achievements however and if Rodgers was to be sacked I certainly wouldn't have an issue with us getting Klopp in, just trying to show that things can go pretty badly wrong for any good manager when his talisman / best player is sold and new acquisitions don't quite work.

Also where Dortmund were at Christmas isn't really relevant. They're 9th, will probably finish about 7th - a position Brendan has already had us in.

My point was that a manager in that situation at LFC would almost certainly have had a mob baying for his head, whatever his past achievements. Despite some of the rewriting of history people have done since, there were plenty, a majority even, calling for Rafa to go during his last season despite the CL win etc, when he was nowhere near in the bottom half of the table

[Shaggy]

Different leagues, different situations, different expectations etc though. Certainly in domestic competition I don't think the strength of the relative leagues are comparable at all. I wasn't really meaning to dismiss Klopp's achievements however and if Rodgers was to be sacked I certainly wouldn't have an issue with us getting Klopp in, just trying to show that things can go pretty badly wrong for any good manager when his talisman / best player is sold and new acquisitions don't quite work.



My point was that a manager in that situation at LFC would almost certainly have had a mob baying for his head, whatever his past achievements. Despite some of the rewriting of history people have done since, there were plenty, a majority even, calling for Rafa to go during his last season despite the CL win etc, when he was nowhere near in the bottom half of the table

Aye. That is certainly true.

[Reece]

Speaking of Rafa, who would bring him back at this point?


Runs away giggling

[Shaggy]

Speaking of Rafa, who would bring him back at this point?


Runs away giggling

Suspect most would be surprised to hear me say "not me". Almost surprising myself. But no.

That said, if he goes wins ANOTHER ****ing European trophy and Napoli keep their run going in the league, I dare say Rafa would have a fair shout.