Brendan Rodgers

[ronanm]

I can see the logic of trying to impose a system on a club but there should be a fall back or plan B to acknowledge the fact we don't have players of Barcelona's calibre to play how he wants. We seem to just pass for the sake of it.

[kris90210]

I can see the logic of trying to impose a system on a club but there should be a fall back or plan B to acknowledge the fact we don't have players of Barcelona's calibre to play how he wants. We seem to just pass for the sake of it.

It's a balancing act isn't it. If we just play entirely to the strengths of the players we have then we won't be playing the system Rodgers wants to implement, in which case the players we have won't get used to it and we'll have to spend next season going through transition as we change style again. At least this way, the players who do have a future at the club are getting used to it and we should be able to hit the ground running next season.

On top of that it's a real litmus test to see which players do have a future at the club playing the style we want to play. For example, Enrique has been found wanting to a certain extent. Henderson too - I thought he would suit it well, but no chance. On the back of this difficult season, Rodgers will be able to take an awful lot from it.

I definitely think we're getting better.

[The Birdman]

Anyone, any****ingone moaning at or about Rodgers needs to have a hard think that we're on our 4th manager in 4 years, all of whom had different ideas on how to play football so the players are learning a 4th style of play in a short period of time.
Then add in that Kenny wasted a **** load of money so FSG weren't going to shell out again.
Then also add in he is trying to manage the team while trying to kick out all the afor mentioned purchased players 12 months after buying them which 99% of all fans agree with because they haven't been good enough.
Then add in injuires to key players
Then add in a wafer thin squad.
Then add in that for the past 3 years we have been a top 8 PL side, not a top 4/6 side.

Then have another little think to yourself about your moaning and think, yeah he's actually doing all right. I can see where we'll be in 12-18 months with 3-4 more players.

The last time LFC had a real identity was Kenny's team of the late 80's, we had spells under Rafa where everyone knew what he was trying to instill but every other manager apart from that has basically flounded around or launched it long be it to Heskey or when the Hodge was in charge.

Rodgers should be given every day of his 3 year contract and the cunts on TAW slagging him off aren't doing themselves or LFC fans in general any favours.

Rodgers might not be the messiah or the next Shankly/Paisley/Kenny mk1 but by the end of the 3 years we'll be a lot closer to the top 4 than we are now.

Get off his ****ing back.

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Well Said

[Reece]

Anyone, any****ingone moaning at or about Rodgers needs to have a hard think that we're on our 4th manager in 4 years, all of whom had different ideas on how to play football so the players are learning a 4th style of play in a short period of time.
Then add in that Kenny wasted a **** load of money so FSG weren't going to shell out again.
Then also add in he is trying to manage the team while trying to kick out all the afor mentioned purchased players 12 months after buying them which 99% of all fans agree with because they haven't been good enough.
Then add in injuires to key players
Then add in a wafer thin squad.
Then add in that for the past 3 years we have been a top 8 PL side, not a top 4/6 side.

Then have another little think to yourself about your moaning and think, yeah he's actually doing all right. I can see where we'll be in 12-18 months with 3-4 more players.

The last time LFC had a real identity was Kenny's team of the late 80's, we had spells under Rafa where everyone knew what he was trying to instill but every other manager apart from that has basically flounded around or launched it long be it to Heskey or when the Hodge was in charge.

Rodgers should be given every day of his 3 year contract and the cunts on TAW slagging him off aren't doing themselves or LFC fans in general any favours.

Rodgers might not be the messiah or the next Shankly/Paisley/Kenny mk1 but by the end of the 3 years we'll be a lot closer to the top 4 than we are now.

Get off his ****ing back.

[kris90210]

Anyone, any****ingone moaning at or about Rodgers needs to have a hard think that we're on our 4th manager in 4 years, all of whom had different ideas on how to play football so the players are learning a 4th style of play in a short period of time.
Then add in that Kenny wasted a **** load of money so FSG weren't going to shell out again.
Then also add in he is trying to manage the team while trying to kick out all the afor mentioned purchased players 12 months after buying them which 99% of all fans agree with because they haven't been good enough.
Then add in injuires to key players
Then add in a wafer thin squad.
Then add in that for the past 3 years we have been a top 8 PL side, not a top 4/6 side.

Then have another little think to yourself about your moaning and think, yeah he's actually doing all right. I can see where we'll be in 12-18 months with 3-4 more players.

The last time LFC had a real identity was Kenny's team of the late 80's, we had spells under Rafa where everyone knew what he was trying to instill but every other manager apart from that has basically flounded around or launched it long be it to Heskey or when the Hodge was in charge.

Rodgers should be given every day of his 3 year contract and the cunts on TAW slagging him off aren't doing themselves or LFC fans in general any favours.

Rodgers might not be the messiah or the next Shankly/Paisley/Kenny mk1 but by the end of the 3 years we'll be a lot closer to the top 4 than we are now.

Get off his ****ing back.

With the right 3-4 players we'll look a different side. So far I think Rodgers has done pretty well in the market so I'm looking forward to seeing what he does this January.

[Lecter]

I can see the logic of trying to impose a system on a club but there should be a fall back or plan B to acknowledge the fact we don't have players of Barcelona's calibre to play how he wants. We seem to just pass for the sake of it.

As Paisley said "Its not the long ball, or the short ball, its the right ball that counts"

The passing is all well and good but at times you need variation in your play. Look at the Suarez goal V Newcastle as a great example of that

I must say the whole possession stats mantra is now starting to grate a little on me

Look at the Celtic V Barcelona game. Barcelona had 89% possession yet still lost.

I think short term we will continue to have problems, both in creating chances, scoring goals and in conceeding them. Yes Lucas will improve things but I think we have to see a general improvement in our shape and pressing from the rest of the midfield and forwards. Equally to play this system effectively you need quality attacking players and they cost big bucks

[Lecter]

Anyone, any****ingone moaning at or about Rodgers needs to have a hard think that we're on our 4th manager in 4 years, all of whom had different ideas on how to play football so the players are learning a 4th style of play in a short period of time.
Then add in that Kenny wasted a **** load of money so FSG weren't going to shell out again.
Then also add in he is trying to manage the team while trying to kick out all the afor mentioned purchased players 12 months after buying them which 99% of all fans agree with because they haven't been good enough.
Then add in injuires to key players
Then add in a wafer thin squad.
Then add in that for the past 3 years we have been a top 8 PL side, not a top 4/6 side.

Then have another little think to yourself about your moaning and think, yeah he's actually doing all right. I can see where we'll be in 12-18 months with 3-4 more players.

The last time LFC had a real identity was Kenny's team of the late 80's, we had spells under Rafa where everyone knew what he was trying to instill but every other manager apart from that has basically flounded around or launched it long be it to Heskey or when the Hodge was in charge.

Rodgers should be given every day of his 3 year contract and the cunts on TAW slagging him off aren't doing themselves or LFC fans in general any favours.

Rodgers might not be the messiah or the next Shankly/Paisley/Kenny mk1 but by the end of the 3 years we'll be a lot closer to the top 4 than we are now.

Get off his ****ing back.

Whilst I agree with a lot of this it doesnt and shouldnt mean Rodgers is beyond reproach

Hes done little or nothing to organise us defensively, or to have us pressing as a unit - which is VERY easy to organise

Hes continued to baffle me by playing Downing ahead of Assaidi and picking Cole at all is a black mark in my book

I'm nowhere near as optimistic as many in here and there are glaring flaws in Rodgers plan and work so far

[kris90210]

Whilst I agree with a lot of this it doesnt and shouldnt mean Rodgers is beyond reproach

Hes done little or nothing to organise us defensively, or to have us pressing as a unit - which is VERY easy to organise

Hes continued to baffle me by playing Downing ahead of Assaidi and picking Cole at all is a black mark in my book

I'm nowhere near as optimistic as many in here and there are glaring flaws in Rodgers plan and work so far

Christ, another one with ideas above himself. No offence Lec, but what qualifies you to say how easy it is to implement anything at all in football?

Rodgers has worked at an extremely high level for years now. So why is it he hasn't been able to organise us in your opinion?

[el matador]

Whilst I agree with a lot of this it doesnt and shouldnt mean Rodgers is beyond reproach

Hes done little or nothing to organise us defensively, or to have us pressing as a unit - which is VERY easy to organise

Hes continued to baffle me by playing Downing ahead of Assaidi and picking Cole at all is a black mark in my book

I'm nowhere near as optimistic as many in here and there are glaring flaws in Rodgers plan and work so far

Lec... You could have said this on the last page.

That way you could have handled some of kris' wikipedia sourced questions. No offence kris

Defensive shape is very easy to organise and its probably one of the first things a coach works on. some of our players have played under some very good tactical coaches so to say they will take time in understanding their roles isnt realistic.

[Lecter]

Christ, another one with ideas above himself. No offence Lec, but what qualifies you to say how easy it is to implement anything at all in football?

Rodgers has worked at an extremely high level for years now. So why is it he hasn't been able to organise us in your opinion?

What qualifies you to disagree with my statement

Nothing

Its just opinion

[Lecter]

Rodgers has worked at an extremely high level for years now. So why is it he hasn't been able to organise us in your opinion?

Hodgson worked at a high level for years also

[kris90210]

Lec... You could have said this on the last page.

That way you could have handled some of kris' wikipedia sourced questions. No offence kris

Defensive shape is very easy to organise and its probably one of the first things a coach works on. some of our players have played under some very good tactical coaches so to say they will take time in understanding their roles isnt realistic.

The only wikipedia link I used was to dispel your assertion that we were basically playing a catenaccio system Which I noticed you didn't respond to by the way.

And I've yet to hear your reasoning as to why a Premiership level coach would struggle to implement something that you and Lecter find 'very easy.'

[Lecter]

Lec... You could have said this on the last page.

That way you could have handled some of kris' wikipedia sourced questions. No offence kris

Defensive shape is very easy to organise and its probably one of the first things a coach works on. some of our players have played under some very good tactical coaches so to say they will take time in understanding their roles isnt realistic.

Rafa had us tactically right very quickly

Hell even Houllier (Bergues) had us organised and disciplined into a shape very very quickly

I am disappointed with what I have seen defensively from us as a unit, its just not there imo

[Lecter]

The only wikipedia link I used was to dispel your assertion that we were basically playing a catenaccio system Which I noticed you didn't respond to by the way.

And I've yet to hear your reasoning as to why a Premiership level coach would struggle to implement something that you and Lecter find 'very easy.'

Why did Kevin Keegan struggle with the defensive side of things??

Why did Roy struggle tactically??

Why did Villas-Boas struggle to sort the backline out at Chelsea yet Di Matteo managed it within a few games?

Just because hes a Premier League coach doesnt mean hes infallible