Brendan Rodgers

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I actually reckon there is a difference between Tiki-Taka and Pass & Move and its not just words

Tiki-Taka is imo a further evolution of Pass & Move, it is distinguished by a higher number of short, sharp passes coupled with lots of intricate movement and it is played at a very high tempo. If you watch Barcelona they often pass and pass but go nowhere

Our pass & move system of the 70's & 80's was much slower paced and was built around 3rd man running but the tempo was much much slower. How often did we just pass the ball along the back four drawing teams out before springing into action

[The Birdman]

I actually reckon there is a difference between Tiki-Taka and Pass & Move and its not just words

Tiki-Taka is imo a further evolution of Pass & Move, it is distinguished by a higher number of short, sharp passes coupled with lots of intricate movement and it is played at a very high tempo. If you watch Barcelona they often pass and pass but go nowhere

Our pass & move system of the 70's & 80's was much slower paced and was built around 3rd man running but the tempo was much much slower. How often did we just pass the ball along the back four drawing teams out before springing into action

A lot of that though Lec is a natural evolution of the game of football, pitches are better, balls lighter, the game much faster, no back pass anymore, the offside rule has changed etc etc..

Our pass & move of the 70's & 80's wouldn't work in today's football because although it's the same game the rules and paramiters are vastly different now, we would have to play at a higher tempo, couldn't always kill the game and tempo by passing back to Clemence/Grobbelar and just going back and across before pouncing.

So basically back then we drew teams onto us, towards our own goal and created the space for a McDermott or McMahon to make the 3rd man run, now with 'Tiki Taka' you move teams across the pitch about 50 yards up then draw them out of position and strike much quicker.

Exactly the same thing, keep possession of the football, pass the ball within the game plan/philosophy then identify when the space has been created to attack in that space.

Pass and move.

[Phoenix07]

The Anfield Wrap made a point about Sigurdsson playing as an attacking midfielder which turned from a 4-3-3 into a 4-2-3-1.

This wouldn't affect us too much in terms of shape, although the passing and intelligence will have an impact as will the transition from 4-3-3 into 4-2-3-1 when attacking.

[Red_Polo]

I think people will struggle to come up with attacking philosophies that don't involve passing and moving. Clearly they are not all the same as the pass and move we played. The devil is in the detail and sometimes subtle differences make for something distinctive.

[Neil Young]

As this discussion becomes increasingly theoretical, the gap between theory and knowledge seems to be growing exponentially wider.

[baitman]

As this discussion becomes increasingly theoretical, the gap between theory and knowledge seems to be growing exponentially wider.

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[dizzycat]

Yep and when the next short, bucktoothed guy with glasses finds two 6 foot eight strikers that can take down a long ball and bully defenders he'll be the next tactical genius and future England manager.

[Paul12]

I think calling it 'pass and move' is too simplistic. There are other elements to tika taka that make it more complex; whilst not complicated as a style, it has other intricate movements that differ to pass and move. Yes, the split centre backs is nothing overly new, but it's not paramount to tika taka (or pass and move) as Rodgers allowed Vorm to mix it up and go long on occasions to counter a high line of pressure.

I agree 'tika taka' is just a buzz word, but it's easy enough to use when having a chat about tactics. And again - I agree - possession football is patient and methodical when used to draw players out of position, but it can also be used to work spaces quickly if the passing is crisp and incisive enough. Obviously this tempo this too high to maintain for a full 90 minutes, but if used effectively in the first 30 minutes, it can allow for any easy remaining 60 when a slower pace and little incision.

I'm also trying to move away from the Barcelona comparisons, as I think they leading to muddled* points.

I don't think there is anything wrong with talking about the next fad, regardless of how innovative it is (or isn't) - it could well be different to what we've seen last season, which is enough to talk about it on an LFC forum, regardless of whether it's a 24 hour news world we live in.

All this in my opinion of course.



* Whaaay!

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Brendan Rodgers' letter to fans: 'Swansea will live in my heart for the rest of my life'


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Thursday, June 07, 2012

South Wales Evening Post

Six days since he was unveiled as the new manager of Liverpool, bringing the curtain down on two fabulous years at the Liberty, Brendan Rodgers asked the Evening Post to print this open letter to Swansea City’s supporters.

THIS is a letter I’d hoped I would not have to write for a long time, and only ever in the event of a unique opportunity.

The chance to manage one of the world’s great footballing institutions doesn’t come around very often in a manager’s life and, after two approaches, I have decided to take up the professional challenge.

Before doing so I wanted to leave you my wholehearted thanks and gratitude for a truly memorable period of my life.

My story at Swansea City began nearly two years ago and my mission above anything else was very clear: to inspire the city.

My aim for a legacy was simply to have made Swansea City Football Club an attacking and creative team who were enjoyable to watch, and to make the people of Swansea proud of their great club, city and nation.

In the years ahead, you, the most important people at the club, will decide if I achieved those dreams, but the journey for me has been one I will never forget.

We created history together to become the first Welsh club in the Premier League, and defied all the odds at the same time, and there is no doubt the club will continue to flourish in the coming years.

I have made many friends and I want to thank them all for the support my family and I have received. I want to thank the board of Swansea City for their belief and support and in particular the chairman, Huw Jenkins.

Our working and personal relationship has become strong over the last two years and I’m sad to be leaving such a good man and friend, but I’m also happy knowing that the future of Swansea City couldn’t be in better hands.

The Supporters’ Trust have really opened my eyes to how a successful club can function and I have no doubts your great work will be replicated throughout football in the coming years.

On behalf of my wife and daughter, I want to say a special thank you to the teachers and pupils at St Michael’s School in Llanelli for everything they have done to make her time at school so enjoyable and rewarding.

I want to thank the media in Wales for the respectful way they have gone about their job and in particular to the South Wales Evening Post, who have been sensitive to the personal issues I have had in my social life.

The players at Swansea I will thank individually, but to them I hope I have helped you become better players and people because you have certainly done that for me.

And, finally, to the Jack Army. I’m proud to have been your manager and feel truly blessed for the support you have given me on and off the field.

Your passion both at home and away made me very proud on the touchline.

I leave knowing I couldn’t have given any more to help your great club succeed.

The next manager will come in and look to keep the club moving forward and your support for him will be as important as it was for me to ensure continued success.

Swansea will live in my heart for the rest of my life and one day I would love to return to this great club and city.

Until that day comes, I wish everyone at Swansea lots of success in the next chapter of your amazing story.

Brendan (forever a Jack!)

[Lee]

Ah he's ****ing class.

I so do wish that he does well with us.

[Bender]

Ah he's ****ing class.

I so do wish that he does well with us.

thought you was talking about me ...then i read the previous post

[Lee]

thought you was talking about me ...then i read the previous post

You're as much use as tits on a fish.

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thought you was talking about me ...then i read the previous post

[Fierce]

Yet more impressive words from BR, can't help but get excited about whats to come listening to him speak