Brendan Rodgers

[fred_plasticine]

Only reflects good on him

Mere observation of body language is just merely observation.
After numerous write ups since Sunday blaming younger players, Skrtel/Rodgers rumours, various youth players being singled out for lower division futures etc.................the first direct comment on-screen by Rodgers blaming himself for team selection has a hint of 'knowing' IMO.
Don't read too much into one observation of body language.

i personally hold him in higher regard. i don't think he would lay the blame on his door simply because he felt he needed to given some of the reactions to his initial statements. which is basically what you insinuate.

[McDermotX]

i personally hold him in higher regard. i don't think he would lay the blame on his door simply because he felt he needed to given some of the reactions to his initial statements. which is basically what you insinuate.

You think I don't hold him in the regard properly reserved for a manager of our club from -

Said something similar in his talk before the game last night. He was to blame before picking younger players etc etc.........paraphrasing, but it was something like that, but with a twinkle in his eye.
Methinks Brendan keeps an eye on the oul media/internet/vibe....

???

That is a huge leap you're making there mate. I would suspect that a lot of what goes on in the dressing room is not laid bare for us in any of the media releases. I suspect Rodgers confronting younger members of the squad on Sunday telling them they're crap and don't have a future unless they buck up their ideas is a hugely exaggerated scenario from what would've happened following the Cup exit. The overriding impression of the fallout was coming down hard on the younger players, Skrtel, Coates, lack of heart from the players etc etc, but very little from possible lack of preparation, wrong team selection, naive approach to the game etc etc

Rodgers words around his failures to that game appeared, to me, to come across as a response to those reports circulating since Sunday. In fact, they were more or less the first response to the question posed to him last night.
I'm sure he does genuinely feel responsible, and at least as culpable as any player he may have felt let him down in that game.....and rightly so. Its not a reflection on Rodgers character to suggest he wanted to draw a line under the defeat with an accepting of blame.

[Gibbo]

Hmm - was the class of 2005 better than the class of 2013? It's a close call.

It's close. I reckon Alonso just tips it for 2005.

[Kloppster]

It's close. I reckon Alonso just tips it for 2005.

ahhhh Alonso.... :weepsuncontrollably: if only ......

[souliv]

2005 side was miles better in defense and midfield


Dudek
Finnan Carragher Hyypia Traore
Garcia Gerrard Alonso Riise
Kewell Baros

Team from last night
Reina
Wisdom Carragher Agger Johnston
Gerrard Henderson Lucas
Suarez Sturridge Downing

[pondus]

2005 side was miles better in defense and midfield


Dudek
Finnan Carragher Hyypia Traore
Garcia Gerrard Alonso Riise
Kewell Baros

Team from last night
Reina
Wisdom Carragher Agger Johnston
Gerrard Henderson Lucas
Suarez Sturridge Downing

Craig Johnston

[S-RED]

2005 side was miles better in defense and midfield


Dudek
Finnan Carragher Hyypia Traore
Garcia Gerrard Alonso Riise
Kewell Baros

Team from last night
Reina
Wisdom Carragher Agger Johnston
Gerrard Henderson Lucas
Suarez Sturridge Downing

Bit sweeping that, carra in his prime & the imperious Hyypia yesi agree but the full backs were poor

the midfield, add momo and they were are force

& upfront 2013 (except the bottler) are light years ahead

[souliv]

Bit sweeping that, carra in his prime & the imperious Hyypia yesi agree but the full backs were poor

the midfield, add momo and they were are force

& upfront 2013 (except the bottler) are light years ahead

will give you Traore but Finnan was an outstanding full back

[Gibbo]

2005 side was miles better in defense and midfield


Dudek
Finnan Carragher Hyypia Traore
Garcia Gerrard Alonso Riise
Kewell Baros

Team from last night
Reina
Wisdom Carragher Agger Johnston
Gerrard Henderson Lucas
Suarez Sturridge Downing

Lets be fair and do our first team, ill put it as 4-4-2 for arguments sake.

Reina > Dudek

Johnson > Finnan
Carra > Skrtel (IMO)
Hypia and Agger aren't too far different (IMO)
Enrique > Traore

Garcia > Hendo
2005 Gerrard > Gerrard
Alonso > Lucas
Rise > Downing (not masses though)

Sturridge > Kewell
Suarez > Baros

Not masses between them at all.

[Red_Polo]

Hendo > Garcia?

Agree with your CB choices, I'd say both were a long way ahead of their current counterparts.

[fred_plasticine]

You think I don't hold him in the regard properly reserved for a manager of our club from -
???

That is a huge leap you're making there mate.

what? i didn't say i held him in higher regard than you, did i?
i doubt he'd say something simply because he felt it was popular or because what he truly means didn't go down well with the fans and the press. i hold him in higher regard than that. that's all i said.

[Gibbo]

Hendo > Garcia?

Agree with your CB choices, I'd say both were a long way ahead of their current counterparts.

Was meant to be the other way round.

Edited it now.

[EwarWoo]

Bit of a silly comparison but.

Even if rafa wasn't far more experienced at that stage you're forgetting the impact of having Hamann as a sub, the comparitive quality of world football (I don't think that team would win it now), taking over a team in the CL would be far easier confidence and cohesion wise than taking over a team who finsihed 7th and just scraped into the Europa and no doubt many more factors.

Lets just judge Brendan on his own stuff rather than using inquantifiable maybe's.

He's a young manager, learning. And there's promising signs. Isn't that enough for now?

[Sarb]

Bit of a silly comparison but.

Even if rafa wasn't far more experienced at that stage you're forgetting the impact of having Hamann as a sub, the comparitive quality of world football (I don't think that team would win it now), taking over a team in the CL would be far easier confidence and cohesion wise than taking over a team who finsihed 7th and just scraped into the Europa and no doubt many more factors.

Lets just judge Brendan on his own stuff rather than using inquantifiable maybe's.

He's a young manager, learning. And there's promising signs. Isn't that enough for now?

Yeah I think some patience is needed when it comes to him. I don't think any manager is perfect. You could go to any club and their fans would have some gripe with a player or manager. Even Fergie has his critics amongst Utd fans.

[Red_Polo]

Was meant to be the other way round.

Edited it now.