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    Originally posted by Chris View Post
    I take it you havent seen Spanish football for about 4 years! He's been Berbatoving it for ages.
    I know mate but I couldn't say they were all lazy. Messi did work hard (once upon a time)

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      Originally posted by alonso14 View Post
      take a look at this

      “My template for everything is organisation. With the ball you have to know the movement patterns, the rotation, the fluidity and positioning of the team. Then there’s our defensive organisation…so if it is not going well we have a default mechanism which makes us hard to beat and we can pass our way into the game again. Rest with the ball. Then we’ll build again.” (Rodgers 2012)

      For Liverpool, a new set of fundamentals will need to be put into place; a move away from the over-reliance on direct football that maximizes the quantity of goal scoring opportunities and not quality - a degree of trust will need to be installed in the individual’s know-how and when to shoot or make the decision that the opportunity is only a half chance and not a sure thing. The approach works on the principles that ‘the whole is greater that then sum of its parts’:"


      the article above is from 2012 and it implies a low risk, keep the ball at all costs philosophy - not one we saw last season nor are we likely to see last seasons again. see the emphasis is on creating fewer but better quality of chances rather than more semi / half chances.

      this is brendan rodgers vision of football - patient, slow, keep the ball. one of the posters asked why are we so slow in exploiting gaps left by the opposition and equally as slow in moving the ball with urgency this season once we have it. the answer is quite simple. thats not his way.
      Don't you think that vision was superceded somewhat last season by another "vision"?

      And maybe he's reverted to type now because of the influx of new players, effectively reimplementing the learning curve?

      I don't know the answer, but I don't think it's quite as black and white as you suggest.
      Oh I don't know.

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        Originally posted by dom9 View Post
        Don't you think that vision was superceded somewhat last season by another "vision"?

        And maybe he's reverted to type now because of the influx of new players, effectively reimplementing the learning curve?

        I don't know the answer, but I don't think it's quite as black and white as you suggest.
        Vision after vision. Brendans having so many visions its hard to keep track of reality.

        No wonder we're all confused. Some more than others though.

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          Originally posted by alonso14 View Post
          Vision after vision. Brendans having so many visions its hard to keep track of reality.

          No wonder we're all confused. Some more than others though.
          I think you're being a little bit harsh there. He's a young manager and it's clear that he's learning still. But what impresses me is that he seems to learn fast. He's pretty adaptable, very intelligent, knows what he wants, and has a habit of getting it. He seems to have all the tools required to be successful. And he's not a cunt like those Fergusons and Mourinhos.

          He's only 2 years older than me ffs, but he's running one of the biggest football clubs on the planet.

          I think he's doing a great job and it's pretty obvious that he's not the finished article. But I find that a little exciting. It's a ride. There will be great fantastic highs, and there will be a few mistakes and lows.

          Take it for what it is, enjoy the ride, and most importantly, keep a sense of perspective and an eye on the bigger picture.
          Oh I don't know.

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            Originally posted by Nigey View Post
            The method is still there, but the implementation is lacking due to the change of personnel. Only match we've been really good at it was away at Spurs, so we could argue that it's a question of time we get it back, but we've lost Allen who was key in that system.
            Allen not playing has a huge impact on our pressing game but the loss of Suarez has lot to do with that too as Mario is not putting the pressure and pressing the defenders in the same way Luis did.
            Member #1 of the Luis Suarez fan club

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              Originally posted by dom9 View Post
              I think you're being a little bit harsh there. He's a young manager and it's clear that he's learning still. But what impresses me is that he seems to learn fast. He's pretty adaptable, very intelligent, knows what he wants, and has a habit of getting it. He seems to have all the tools required to be successful. And he's not a cunt like those Fergusons and Mourinhos.

              He's only 2 years older than me ffs, but he's running one of the biggest football clubs on the planet.

              I think he's doing a great job and it's pretty obvious that he's not the finished article. But I find that a little exciting. It's a ride. There will be great fantastic highs, and there will be a few mistakes and lows.

              Take it for what it is, enjoy the ride, and most importantly, keep a sense of perspective and an eye on the bigger picture.
              Absolutely. I cant remember a season like last year and I wont ever forget it either.

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                Welcome to est by the way.
                Oh I don't know.

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                  I agree with Dom. Rodgers is clearly a very intelligent adaptive coach. He'll make mistakes, but I have total faith that he's aware of the team's deficiencies and that he'll find a way to resolve them.

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                    Colin Pascoe's song is great

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                      Just hope it doesn't go tits up like it did in 2003 and 2009 after finishing 2nd.

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                        Think it might...

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                          Originally posted by G View Post


                          As if Pascoe has a song and Sturridge doesn't!
                          Originally posted by fah-q
                          Didn't someone once see Philip Schofield ****ting into a crisp packet?

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                            Originally posted by meffin View Post


                            As if Pascoe has a song and Sturridge doesn't!
                            I think it's quite clear he does! It was getting sung at the Derby too!

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                              Originally posted by G View Post
                              I think it's quite clear he does! It was getting sung at the Derby too!
                              Sing it then
                              Originally posted by fah-q
                              Didn't someone once see Philip Schofield ****ting into a crisp packet?

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                                Originally posted by RoboKop View Post
                                Suarez was massive in terms of defending from the front. Gave the opposition defence no space or time on the ball.
                                He was BUT he also had other players around him doing it

                                In particular Henderson and Sterling

                                Neither of them have done much of that this season

                                You havent just lost one player who pressed the ball you've essentially lost 3 as those two havent contributed anywhere near enough

                                On Saturday Lallana was the only player who consistently pressed the ball, the lad worked his socks off

                                Now for me we use to get that every week from Henderson & to a slightly lesser extent Sterling but for whatever reason be it loss of form, World Cup hangover or injury they just havent contributed anywhere near enough in this department

                                Losing Suarez is a massive blow but for me its as much what others are no longer doing as him not being here
                                Bob Paisley - "This club has been my life. I'd go out and sweep the street and be proud to do it for Liverpool if they asked me to."

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