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    Originally posted by Rich View Post
    It's right to question Rodgers in how we set up defensively. Shambles at the back, complete mess.


    Our whole defence is a shambles & looks worse this season! Who would have thought that could actually happen. Skrtel & Lovren look a disaster at CB, Moreno i said previous we won't see best of him until next season & Johnson well no comment. Since he's came back we've shipped 5 goals, actually thoguht Manquillo was doing ok.

    So much money spent, i like Rodgers but you do have to question several of his buys.

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      Originally posted by Rich View Post
      It's right to question Rodgers in how we set up defensively. Shambles at the back, complete mess.
      Not had a solid unit since the days of Rafa

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        Lovren has been cack, Skrtel shaky, Enrique and Johnson need moving on as they're expensive in terms of giving away possession and unable to pass a ball three feet. Our defence slows our play down massively, Agger was rapid by comparison... Spanish lads will come good but need experience CBs to learn from

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          This is very similar to his first season while we were in the Europa. Once we got knocked out we really kicked on. The squad now is physically bigger but the quality is still not good enough outside the best 11 or 12. That might improve as the new ones settle. The defence is getting beyond a joke though. Not even tonight but the numerous **** premier league sides that expose it week in, week out. Expect Hull to do the same.

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            You don't need 11 world class players to be defensively solid. I don't understand the argument about the lack of quality in the team being the main reason we can't play better against good teams.

            We cant mix it with the good teams because we can't stop giving away soft goals and we haven't ever done since the day Brendan Rodgers got here. If we want to be a winning team this cant continue.

            If our targets are more modest then playing good football but losing to every good side we play should be acceptable.

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              I think it is fair to say Brendan is under pressure to prove last season was not a flash in the pan, carried on the coat tales of one of the best players in the world. The media like him, so he is fairly safe there - it is the fans he has to convince. And it is performances as well as results we need right now - we hinted at something last season, but it has all but disappeared. The football we are playing right now reminds me of when Brendan began it is as if the players do not understand the jobs they have been given. And are defending is laughable, really any team must fancy scoring against us, you can Guarantee Fellaini will play against us when we play the red Mancs - it is troubling.

              I think Brendan has some difficult decisions to make regarding the formation we play, and has to have a belter of a Jan window - similar to the Coutinho and Sturridge one, his only triumphant transfer window so far.
              Modifying post.

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                I think the defence was pretty solid under Kenny, it was at the other end where we had no luck, hitting the post what seemed like ten times a game.

                Was Steve Clarke our defensive coach back then? Whoever it was did a pretty decent job I thought. It's clear Brendan hasn't the foggiest how to set up a solid defence and the malaise is like a cancer in this team right now. He has not been put under enough scrutiny on this elephant in the room and he has to swallow his pride and draft in some organisational help, bloody soon.

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                  He should get Carra in asap
                  "Its not about the long ball or the short ball, its about the right ball." Bob Paisley

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                    Originally posted by breffniboy View Post
                    I think the defence was pretty solid under Kenny, it was at the other end where we had no luck, hitting the post what seemed like ten times a game.

                    Was Steve Clarke our defensive coach back then? Whoever it was did a pretty decent job I thought. It's clear Brendan hasn't the foggiest how to set up a solid defence and the malaise is like a cancer in this team right now. He has not been put under enough scrutiny on this elephant in the room and he has to swallow his pride and draft in some organisational help, bloody soon.
                    yip....

                    the funny thing was, when Kenny got the sack, Clarkey went to Boston and resigned.....but John W and Tom convinced him to stay. It looked like he would work with Brendan - and with the chelsea connections maybe it was set up that way...... upon arrival though, Brendan said "thanks but no thanks" and Clarke went to WBA....

                    I think whoever is advising FSG on football matters (is it kenny now again?) will obviously be pointing out that our defense is a car crash. If they try to force a steve clarke, hyypia, phil thompson or carragher onto Brendan, then i suspect Brendan will see his arse and that could be the beginning of the end...

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                      Sturridge, coutinho successes, Allen does a job. Moreno has promise as has Manquillo. Too early for Markovic. Lallana will be ok. The rest of the signings made since he's come in don't inspire confidence in whoever it is picking them. Harsh?

                      Edit: I like Can too. Think he has what it takes.
                      Last edited by G; 22-10-14, 11:19 PM.

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                        I do believe Rogers is the man to progress us but 5 transfer windows and the defence is actually getting worse and at present on course to concede over 60 goals.

                        He needs to solve this issue quick.
                        "All I'll ever do is all I've ever done in any job, and that's promise to fight for my life for the supporters and the people of the city"

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                          Originally posted by G View Post
                          Sturridge, coutinho successes, Allen does a job. Moreno has promise as has Manquillo. Too early for Markovic. Lallana will be ok. The rest of the signings made since he's come in don't inspire confidence in whoever it is picking them. Harsh?

                          I think Stevie Wonder must have identified Lovren and Mario

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                            Maybe its just a lack of experience on brendans part. When you go up against one of the best attacking teams in the world you should show them a little more respect. Adapt your formation and go in cautiously. But we went in trying to play them at their own game and lost convincingly.

                            But this game doesn't itself explain why defensively we are so poor. There's a complete lack of any organisation when we don't have the ball yet when we are in possession we look fluid. I would like to think he will get this right.

                            As for fsg imposing a defensive coach to help Brendan, he wont take that so they could end up looking for someone else if he throws his toys out the pram. But I agree that something has to be done and also fsg aren't averse to making quick decisions re managers.

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                              This is just shocking

                              SSN just said #LFC have conceded 7 set piece goals in 12 games this season. ****ing. Hell.
                              "All I'll ever do is all I've ever done in any job, and that's promise to fight for my life for the supporters and the people of the city"

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                                Is that unusual?
                                Trey Nyoni: countdown to stardom- 2 years 1year 0.5 years

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