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    Originally posted by The Birdman View Post
    Yes it is.

    If you think a manager finishes 2nd, gets within minutes of winning the PL then doesn't have a final say on transfers then you're bonkers.

    Rodgers refused to work with/under a DoF so to now pretend that **** players aren't his choice is madness, yes we have this committee but fairly recently it came out that Rodgers says what positions we need to strengthen, the committee compile a list and Rodgers gives his preferred order off that list.

    What's wrong is that this confusion exists but what is far, far worse is that the club spent £20 mill on Lovren to effectively replace £17 mill Sakho bought not 12 months before.

    I can't believe Rodgers has gone the last guy we spent loads on and I haven't really given a fair chance to is **** (even though he is first choice for France and looks great for them) so 1 year into a lucrative 5 years deal can I replace him with someone else???

    That conversation cannot have happened surely?
    brendan rodgers cant lose with the transfer committee given the huge amount of confusion over the whole process. if we sign a player and he's a huge success brendan can cosy up with him and make it out that he was his choice (like with daniel sturridge). If a player completely flops he can distance himself from him (like with mario) and blame the transfer committee for signing a player he didnt really want.

    its a no lose situation for the manager. either way he comes out of it without any blame attached whatsoever.

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      Originally posted by Shaggy View Post
      I don't doubt he has the final say, not at all. But there is clear confusion and it seems clear to me he is having to rubber stamp players foisted upon him and ones that he is not convinced about.

      His (apparent) own choices (Lovren et al) are **** anyway so it doesn't really matter
      Well don't rubber stamp them then.
      Players get managers the sack or keep them in a job, no manager would accept players he didn't want.
      The King was back for a short while. Long live The King.

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        Originally posted by alonso14 View Post
        brendan rodgers cant lose with the transfer committee given the huge amount of confusion over the whole process. if we sign a player and he's a huge success brendan can cosy up with him and make it out that he was his choice (like with daniel sturridge). If a player completely flops he can distance himself from him (like with mario) and blame the transfer committee for signing a player he didnt really want.

        its a no lose situation for the manager. either way he comes out of it without any blame attached whatsoever.
        Yep, 100% agree with you.
        There needs to be more accountability about the process.
        The King was back for a short while. Long live The King.

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          Originally posted by The Birdman View Post
          Well don't rubber stamp them then.
          Players get managers the sack or keep them in a job, no manager would accept players he didn't want.
          He obviously wanted some players more than he wanted others. No one will convince me Rodgers *really* wanted, for example, Sakho, but he took him cos he wasn't gonna get Williams or whoever it was he really wanted.

          And totally agree re the accountability thing. There needs to be more transparency about the whole process, but we'll never get that - it's a football club ffs.
          Thanks very much for being ‘This Mornings’ Farmer’

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            Originally posted by Shaggy View Post
            I don't doubt he has the final say, not at all. But there is clear confusion and it seems clear to me he is having to rubber stamp players foisted upon him and ones that he is not convinced about.

            His (apparent) own choices (Lovren et al) are **** anyway so it doesn't really matter


            You are not exactly inspiring confidence with your posts Shaggy

            By the looks of it neither Brendan nor the committee can pick a player

            Brendan clearly chose Allen & Borini if he also picked Lovren then that increases the worry tenfold
            Bob Paisley - "This club has been my life. I'd go out and sweep the street and be proud to do it for Liverpool if they asked me to."

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              Originally posted by Lecter View Post


              You are not exactly inspiring confidence with your posts Shaggy

              By the looks of it neither Brendan nor the committee can pick a player

              Brendan clearly chose Allen & Borini if he also picked Lovren then that increases the worry tenfold


              Grim isn't it.



              Brendan Rodgers says it is “easy” to see why Liverpool have made such a stuttering start to the season - a lack of goals.

              Luis Suarez and Daniel Sturridge struck 52 times between them in the Premier League last term as the Reds came agonisingly close to winning the title.

              But with Suarez sold to Barcelona in the summer and Sturridge currently sidelined through injury, Liverpool have struggled to find the back of the net this season.

              Saturday’s 1-0 defeat at Newcastle United was the fifth time Rodgers’ side have failed to score in this campaign and Rodgers says it “fairly straightforward” to see why their form has dropped off.

              “You are always analysing and looking,” Rodgers said.

              “It’s fairly straightforward and easy to see why the performances haven’t been as fluent.

              “We’ve lost goals, we scored 101 goals last year and the team has been working towards that.

              “But then, you take out nearly 80% of that and it can become difficult for you.

              “There has been the introduction of new players as well.

              “So it is not rocket science but you need to find the answers and that’s my job as the manager and coach to do that.

              “I don’t think we deserved to lose the game but we didn’t do enough to win it.

              “But when it’s like that you can’t make mistakes. We defended well in the main but made a mistake near the end which cost us.”

              Rodgers, however, maintains that last season’s success was built on a strong team ethic and though top scorers Suarez and Sturridge are absent the manager believes Liverpool are good enough to get back on track.

              “Our success was built on the collective,” he added.

              “The two players at the top end of the field got the goals and everyone supported them in that.

              “But it is for us all.

              “We win, lose or draw as a collective and a team so it’s not a case of me trying to identify any individual because, for us, it is really about the team and that is something that will always be the case.

              “So we need to find the solution as a team.

              “The result wasn’t what we would want so we need to rectify and improve.”

              Despite Saturday’s set-back and with the daunting prospect of back-to-back games with Real Madrid and Chelsea on the horizon this week, Rodgers insists confidence in the squad remains high.

              “It’s my job to focus on lots of elements of our performance.

              “You see the players with confidence - they’re not shying away from the ball, they want the ball - the movement was good and the creativity to build the game up was good but we lacked that creativity and end ball in the final third and ultimately that is what has won us a lot of games over a period of time unfortunately we didn’t have that.”

              Rodgers concluded: “Momentum is obviously vital.

              “For us it’s been a difficult start, not ideal, but we can only continue to work well and that is all you can do.

              “You work hard, that gives you extra confidence and that confidence brings you success.

              “That is something we will strive towards.”
              Thanks very much for being ‘This Mornings’ Farmer’

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                “Our success was built on the collective,” he added.

                “The two players at the top end of the field got the goals and everyone supported them in that.
                Bob Paisley - "This club has been my life. I'd go out and sweep the street and be proud to do it for Liverpool if they asked me to."

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                  I'm sick of him pointing out the same thing each time. He knew this from the start and did little to fix it. Lambert was the first striker we brought in for gods sake. That sort of signing should be an after thought when everythings done. The whole transfer committee stuff is beyond annoying. Its startng to sound like if Brendan doesnt get his first few choices, he just shrugs and accepts whatever the committee would like him to sign. How about instead of wasting money on rubbish players like Balotelli, you save that money and go balls deep into the next window and do a proper job instead of half arsed one. I swear to god our youth players would score more.

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                    Should have gone out a signed a proper Suarez replacement Brendan.

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                      Originally posted by Shaggy View Post
                      He obviously wanted some players more than he wanted others. No one will convince me Rodgers *really* wanted, for example, Sakho, but he took him cos he wasn't gonna get Williams or whoever it was he really wanted.

                      And totally agree re the accountability thing. There needs to be more transparency about the whole process, but we'll never get that - it's a football club ffs.
                      Transparency for whom? I am sure the Henry and Werner and others at FSG know who was the main man behind each of the signings. I dont think transparency for the entire fanbase so that Shaggy, Peekay, DannyMan, and Lecter can end their debates on EST is a top priority for them

                      FSG are ruthless from their record with Red Sox as well as with us. If the signings arent working out by January/February and if they are primarily driven by the transfer committee, then we will see resignations on that front. If the signings are primarily driven by Brendan and if we continue in the same way, then I can either see Brendan given the sack at the end of the season or a DOF being appointed.

                      I think the January transfer window will give us a lot of hints. If we continue playing the same way and if no money is made available for transfers in January with usual headlines of "No value in January", then I think it is a clear sign that either Brendan or the transfer committee or both of them are in trouble.
                      Last edited by peekay; 03-11-14, 07:36 PM.

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                        Amazed at how Lallana can't get into BR's Team of Galactacos

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                          Originally posted by Leyton388 View Post
                          Should have gone out a signed a proper Suarez replacement Brendan.
                          not even that, Anybody Di Maria, Sanchez ( we tried) Falcao, Lavezzi, Benzema, Cavani, or Any other 40m + player,

                          Should have added 2 more to our squad and ****ed off the Champs league this season. Don't take it seriously play the kids and concentrate on the league this season
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                          Think we have the answer..Slot!!

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                            Originally posted by Leyton388 View Post
                            Should have gone out a signed a proper Suarez replacement Brendan.
                            well as i said before we have had our £100million splurge .....and not a single world class player to show for it.

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                              At the moment, I'd say we have 5 starters that we're all happy with when on form, Sturridge, Sterling, Henderson, Coutihno and Gerrard. If anyone else dropped out because of injury, I dont think we'd see it as much of a problem as the remainder are not what I'd call essential players.

                              Only 2 of those are Rogers signings, and what's more, the remainder equates to £195m. It doesn't matter how its dressed up, thats quite frankly shocking and an absolutely piss poor return.
                              SakhoPotatoes

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                                Originally posted by tanner View Post
                                At the moment, I'd say we have 5 starters that we're all happy with when on form, Sturridge, Sterling, Henderson, Coutihno and Gerrard. If anyone else dropped out because of injury, I dont think we'd see it as much of a problem as the remainder are not what I'd call essential players.

                                Only 2 of those are Rogers signings, and what's more, the remainder equates to £195m. It doesn't matter how its dressed up, thats quite frankly shocking and an absolutely piss poor return.
                                That's fair, but only if he gets credited as strongly for last seasons 2nd place.

                                Lots of blame falls to the manager, but the players need to shoulder it too. Johnson, Skrtel, Mignolet, Henderson, Balotelli. All of them are good premiership players. But they have all been bang out of form.

                                Not fair to blame Rodgers for everything.
                                *Except Michael, who died.

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