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No, him being sacked was completely and totally wrong and still casts a dark shadow over this club. Every single bit of conflict he had was for the right reasons in support of the club and its supporters. Clearly wasn't working? He had us as constant top 4 finishers and among the best teams in Europe. And he had one single season where the ownership cut support out from under him where things went to hell and those scum used it as an excuse to toss him for a ****ing yes man.
Regardless of football matters and whether people rate or don't rate the manager that is Rafa.
Those ****ers were ALL decieving him, even those with the clubs best interest at heart in trying to get rid of H&g, they all lied to Rafa, paying him lip service, talking about future plans when they knew damn well they were'nt going to carry them out.
Must have been a real hard time for him, no doubt about it, and he certainly didn't desreve that!
******s!! H&G hurt this club soooooooooooooooooo bad!!!
Regardless of football matters and whether people rate or don't rate the manager that is Rafa.
Those ****ers were ALL decieving him, even those with the clubs best interest at heart in trying to get rid of H&g, they all lied to Rafa, paying him lip service, talking about future plans when they knew damn well they were'nt going to carry them out.
Must have been a real hard time for him, no doubt about it, and he certainly didn't desreve that!
******s!! H&G hurt this club soooooooooooooooooo bad!!!
We are suffering still & BR WILL not rectify this, I would love him to succeed but he cannot as his ego can't get his head around that he is a brilliant coach but a **** spotters of players. He has to go as his stay of execution feels like it is regressing us by 5 years
Watching Monday Night Football and Neville & Carragher making some great points, unfortunately pretty damning about our defence and what Rodgers has done to rectify it.
Mind you the same Carragher and Neville were praising Lovern only a few short months ago calling him an organiser and saying he was exactly what Liverpool needed.
Easy for them to sit there now and slag off the defense after it has been shyte, but where was that expert opinion at the start of the season when Lovern was being praised by them?
I don't hate people. I just feel better when they aren't around.
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Mind you the same Carragher and Neville were praising Lovern only a few short months ago calling him an organiser and saying he was exactly what Liverpool needed.
Easy for them to sit there now and slag off the defense after it has been shyte, but where was that expert opinion at the start of the season when Lovern was being praised by them?
Mind you the same Carragher and Neville were praising Lovern only a few short months ago calling him an organiser and saying he was exactly what Liverpool needed.
Easy for them to sit there now and slag off the defense after it has been shyte, but where was that expert opinion at the start of the season when Lovern was being praised by them?
This was Posted on rawk. Pearce has clearly been briefed by Rodgers. It seems like it's an absolute mess behind the scenes.
Liverpool Echo's James Pearce one of the most trusted persons regarding LFC affairs has come out to suggest that the Transfer Committee (TC) could have made BR's work difficult at Anfield. The sale of senior players on big wages and the signings that BR made this season were not totally his choice, but the committee's. Many managers refused to work under a sporting director when they were interviewed by FSG for the job before BR came in. FSG later set up this committee that is identical, or perhaps wields more power than a sporting director, whilst giving the idea that the manager is totally in charge. Whatever decision the manager makes with regards to signings and contracts, will be voted by 5 people in the committee. Only in the case of a majority vote, BR can sign the players he wants. Otherwise he has to improvise with the players chosen by the TC. Pearce says BR NEVER wanted to sign Balotelli but was forced to settle for him. In other words, it was the TC that ultimately failed to replace Suarez despite getting big money by selling him. Pearce says BR also made it clear that he wanted Michel Vorm and that signing a GK is a priority. But he says the transfer committee refused to pay his value despite only spending over 30mil in net spending this summer. This also had a significant impact on Mignolet's form as LFC didn't try to provide competition for the Belgian. Pearce says paying top bucks for Lovren made perfect sense at that point, as he was not one for the future, but was coming in as a top centre back, based on his form with the Saints and his Premier League experience. He was bought to hit the ground running. However he's had a major dip in form which is disappointing says Pearce. Similar tone has been voiced by Mike Bernard, a former employee of FSG, who said BR failing to see eye-to-eye with some of the TC members and their signings, is getting a little unsavoury. Mike noted that BR wanted Eriksen and Bony but was overruled. This also goes back to previous failures to show the money and securing players early when they had interest to move to LFC. Plenty of dragging negotiations and low-balling saw the failure of securing targets such as Willian, Salah, Mikhtaryan, Konoplyanka and more. Diego Costa was identified by BR as a transfer target when Costa was playing as a wing-forward, long before he became a star in that out-and-out striker position and caught the whole world's attention. TC thought his release clause of 20mil back then was too much. The rest is history. While we drag our feet on targets, other clubs come into the picture, showed the money and swooped them as we watch helplessly. Even for Sanchez, Phil Thompson declared during the world cup that we had Sanchez in the bag. However too much negotiations into details and conditions in payment method allowed Arsenal to sneak in and turn his and his wife's head.
Pearce also does not believe with the popular excuse that BR got founded after Suarez left, and that it was the Uruguayan who made BR look good last season. He says BR's tactical acumen led the team prosper last season, not Suarez alone. The expectations has been raised by last season's football and LFC are struggling with the pressure now he adds. Pearce labels Borini's position as strange and wonders if it could be the club showing frustration against him, for not being able to secure 14mil from Sunderland and another 13mil from QPR. They're certainly making it clear to Borini that he shouldn't reject another deal in January. Another journo Graham Beecroft says Borini could have indicated that he rather sit on the bench and take the wages or run down his contract, than moving to a small club ie Sunderland, QPR who are also refusing to pay more wages than LFC. Could be the reason why he's strangely frozen. Could be the club's decision not the manager's.
The last time Pearce spoke to BR, the manager said Can and some of the new players are still trying to adapt to his philosophy of football and it could be the reason why BR resorts to playing those who know what is expected of them for now. But Pearce says he will speak to BR again about Can to find out more on his position. Pearce says LFC's season could depend on Sturridge coming back to be paired with Balotelli upfront, and then allow the rest of the team to click. Pearce doesn't know if FSG are willing to spend in January but it's a question of can they afford not to. As champions league new TV deal brings in over 40mil next season compared to 25mil before, he opines that LFC must spend. Especially on a top quality striker, taking into account Studge's fitness.
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