Brendan Rodgers

[poobear]

I wouldnt have played Johnson at centrehalf would have gone for Toure, I might have also been tempted to gamble on Sakho instead of Lovren

I would have had Lucas holding instead of Allen, but thats no surprise as I would probably play my mum instead of Joe Allen

Again I have only watched the highlights but it appeared we created more chances in that game than in many of our previous ones so to a degree the change worked but defensively we were terrible and United didnt look that fantastic yet still won at a canter

Agreed.
Allen is too light in that central position and I still can't quite understand Rodgers love in with him.
Biggest problem ATM is that we, or if we believe Pearce - the TC, didn't buy the correct players in the summer. I'm not going to be too harsh on Rodgers on this as we have been doing this **** since Souness. After really good seasons, we appear to use a scatter gun approach in recruiting players.

However, saying that - it's the manager's job then to first pick the right team for the game and don't revert back to trusted personnel when they have been crap all year. At some point he has to grow a pair and pick players who are performing and not those letting him down week in / week out.

To be successful there are 6 positions on the pitch that have to be strong, GK, ,CB, 2CM and a striker. If you have these, then you are 95% there. Unfortunately, due to funds, bad buys, players getting older, cybertronics along qwith cymermetrics and moneyball we've regressed in all of those areas in the past 6years, shockingly so.

[meffin]

Loving seeing more lurkers posting.

poobear

[Rowan]

It's not that all of our investment was bad. Had we picked up someone more Sturridge than Ballotelli and gone for, well, anybody else but Lovren then we might be in a different position. As it was we made our weak defence even weaker and took all the attacking threat out of the team.

Moreno, Can, Lallana, Markovic should be complementing an already efficient beast but as we've ****ed other key areas in the team they've been made to look ****.

Oh, and centre mid has totally gone to **** too. Criminal that we didn't go for Song.

[poobear]

Loving seeing more lurkers posting.

poobear

Lost the plot with RAWK, thought I'd contribute, however inane my ramblings are......

[Muddled]

Loving seeing more lurkers posting.

poobear

Brendan Rodgers is the new Stewart Downing.

Lost the plot with RAWK, thought I'd contribute, however inane my ramblings are......

Whheey! You've found your clique already.

[Leyton388]

In our current form, maybe. We also have players that will develop over time and have the ability to become good players.

Agree, however we needed established players in the summer to kick on and soften the blow of losing Suarez but it didn't happen. I'm sick to death of this quantity over quality philosophy that has engulfed the club. You don't build a squad by signing a load of potential. You do it by signing quality first team established players who can go right into the first 11 then you slowly build your squad by signing players to take up a first 11 slot and those already in the first 11 either improve or drop to the bench.

We sell world class we don't sign them i'm afraid.

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Just for anyone still reading anything into that badly written ****e on rawk:

@JamesPearceEcho: @robbieclfc What I said on the audio and what's in that written summary of it on RAWK are very different.

I said this earlier in the thread. What's written on rawk is nothing like what he said. Says it all that nobody actually bothered to listen to the audio before mass amounts of knickers got twisted. I saw a major fume on Twitter about it last night and again everybody just took the rawk stuff as gospel even though the link to the audio is right there!

[BigChief]

Whheey! You've found your clique already.

Lector, RAWK, hmmmm :scratch chin:

[Chilts33]

Bony & Remy over Balotelli & Lampost, would we be in the same shape as we are currently?

[Bender]

[frank the tank]

Bony & Remy over Balotelli & Lampost, would we be in the same shape as we are currently?

For me you could ask that question over any player we signed though - look far enough and you will find someone that could have been better....... i personally think that Balotelli could form a good partnership with Sturridge, with Sterling behind them and the rest will be history - diamonds are forever!!!

Accounting for fees and wages, maybe we didnt have the budget for Bony and Remy. Who's to say that Bony wouldnt have cost 25 to 30m alone. Also, just because he is scoring goals for swansea doesn't mean he would be good for LFC. Stewey Downing is playing his way into england contention at West Ham but he would have been ****e for us!!! And was!!!

The Remy deal falling apart was a strange one alright though. I think he would have been ace - could play on the wing as well - and hungry for goals. It's doubly-disappointing that he ended up making Chelsea's squad even stronger.....

Recruitment is definately the main issue with the club. If that is partially Brendans fault (which i suspect it is) then he has to go. Because you can't run a football club without signing players - and he has proven that he can't be trusted with big transfer funds. The only saving grace for BR is if he gets the team playing well, gets results, AND integrates some of the new signings before the end of the season. Even if we don't get champions league next year, then he might have a case in saying "my new players are now used to english football.......now watch us fly". But personally i fear that the defensive issues with the team will ultimately cost him his job..... Dejan Lovren will be the final nail in the coffin!!!

[ChrisDR1968]

Agree, however we needed established players in the summer to kick on and soften the blow of losing Suarez but it didn't happen. I'm sick to death of this quantity over quality philosophy that has engulfed the club. You don't build a squad by signing a load of potential. You do it by signing quality first team established players who can go right into the first 11 then you slowly build your squad by signing players to take up a first 11 slot and those already in the first 11 either improve or drop to the bench.

We sell world class we don't sign them i'm afraid.

Can you quantify what you mean as quality first team established players in monetary terms?

Are we talking transfer fees of up to £30 million plus around £150,000 in wages every week?

If these are the numbers people on here are advocating for star players how many do you think this club can afford to have in the squad at any one time?

[Chazza]

Transfer news: Liverpool to undergo complete review of player recruitment strategy

Liverpool will undergo a complete review of their player recruitment strategy after struggling to implement a host of new signings this season.

The Merseyside club sit 11th in the Premier League and have been knocked out of the Champions League group stages, with two wins from their last 10 games in all competitions.

After Luis Suarez was sold to Barcelona for £75million, the Reds spent over £100m on eight new players last summer, including £16m on Mario Balotelli.

"Liverpool missed out on a big target in Alexis Sanchez last summer. His decision to go to Arsenal was a major hindrance in the club's transfer plans."

Hindrance

Sky Sports reporter Vinny O’Connor understands a meeting will be held between head of recruitment Dave Fallows, managing director Ian Ayre and manager Brendan Rodgers ahead of the January transfer window.

"There is talk today that Liverpool are going to have a full review of their transfer procedure; how their committee decides on transfer targets and how they go about bringing them in," O’Connor said.

"Liverpool missed out on a big target in Alexis Sanchez last summer. His decision to go to Arsenal was a major hindrance in the club's transfer plans.

"They thought there was a deal to be done there, perhaps as part of the Suarez (deal) or separately, but it added to the list of recent failed signings along with Yevhen Konoplyanka, the Ukranian winger, and Mohamed Salah, who went to Chelsea."

Speaking ahead of his side’s Capital One Cup quarter-final against Bournemouth, boss Rodgers suggested he would welcome a meeting of this kind.

“Within, we are very analytical of performance and analyse how we’re doing for constant improvement,” he said.

“But my work is very much focused on the players that we do have, on trying to improve them individually and as a team. I think I’ve shown in my career as a coach and a manager that that’s what I get my teeth into.”

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11669/9608922/transfer-news-liverpool-to-undergo-complete-review-of-player-recruitment-strategy

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Regarding the transfer committee I've been reading the thread about this rawk malarkey on the Rattle. These are some of Tony Barretts replies over there which are interesting.

Rome84 wrote

My understanding is Rodgers has the power of veto over any signing. He could've blocked the move for Balotelli for example but chose not to because there were no other options available to him at that stage and it was late in the window.
When he says he has final say it's because he does have it. He's not lying. But the questions are what exactly does he have final say on and how worthwhile is having the final say if the strategy is flawed?

Boydy wrote:
Put it this way, no manager is ever going to say no to a top class player.

Clearly we haven't been in a position to offer him that proposition. Therefore when presented with a list of potential, mediocre and ****e you're going to end up with some of them all with this failed transfer policy.

It's the policy that's flawed and the same policy will be flawed under the next fella and would be under Ancelotti or Guardiola.

Rome84 wrote
He presents many of the options himself.

tony are you saying that the signings are down to him or this committee?

Rome84 wrote

All of them. And the owners. The strategy is dictated by the owners and it's implemented by the manager and the committee as a collective. Any blame (or credit) is shared.

Rome84 wrote

He does have final say and he has used it to block signings. There is an absolute dysfunction in the entire process though and that's been blatantly obvious for 18 months.

The final say on what comes out of that ****ing process you've just gone all around the houses on.

The process that leaves him with the final on whether to sign Balotelli or go into the season with only Sturridge and Lambert.

Rome84 wrote

I've said that throughout. But that doesn't get him off the hook and put others on it. The process is ****e. It's absikutely flawed. But again that doesn't make the manager devoid of responsibility.
If anyone thinks our scouts were determined to sign middle aged Southampton players in the summer they're living in cloud cuckoo land.
You can work out the ones Rodgers put forward just by using your common sense. Rodgers first choices were Lovren, Lallana and Lambert. The conmittee's were Moreno, Can and Origi.
Everyone is culpable and why people are trying to create bogeymen and give more responsibility to one than others and vice versa is beyond me.

Rome84 wrote

Some of this is agenda driven bollocks, but the outline of the structure is accurate:

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2...acular-failure

rafaworejeansatwrexham wrote:
Do we reckon Borini has been frozen out by Rodgers or by the Committee because the club want him to go in January?
Has Rodgers been told that he can't pick him?

Rome84 wrote

No. Rodgers hasn't wanted him for months (quite rightly in my opinion).

Robbie1983 wrote:
Did the statistical approach work last year then? Or is it just ****e now that he's agreed to spend 120 mill on a load of ****e?

Rome84 wrote

It didn't work then either. We challenged for the title despite our signings, not because of them.

The article he linked to is by Duncan Castles so as expected there's a fair amount of bile in there but interesting( and shocking) to note that the stuff about how we sign players is accurate.

[wiw]

If Rodgers' first choices were Lallana, Lambert and Lovren..god help us All decent players in their own right, but show some imagination man. There are thousands of players out there.